How far do you push your body if its sore?

[Rockin']

So when was this that Jackie Kallen was managing you.

I first met Jackie at my amatuer gym. She had signed a fighter and was working out of our gym. That was around I believe '88-'89. I designed a logo that she still uses to this day as a kid, the Galaxy logo. I was with her as a professional from about '91 thru early '93. She's a great lady, don't listen to what James might tell you.....as a professional ......Rockin'

[jaded]

I first met Jackie at my amatuer gym. She had signed a fighter and was working out of our gym. That was around I believe '88-'89. I designed a logo that she still uses to this day as a kid, the Galaxy logo. I was with her as a professional from about '91 thru early '93. She's a great lady, don't listen to what James might tell you.....as a professional ......Rockin'

I think her Galaxy gym days ended when she moved to L.A in '97...her health is pretty bad...cancer & heart disease...she had a few operations.

[Rockin']

I think her Galaxy gym days ended when she moved to L.A in '97...her health is pretty bad...cancer & heart disease...she had a few operations.

I keep in contact with her and she did have an operation but she never hinted that her health was "bad". She's moving back to Michigan soon, can't wait to have her back, she's just that cool of a lady.....Rockin'

[TheMexHurricane]

I dodnt know if its my specific body/genes but some times I feel like I cant push it as far as others. I feel like my muscles need more time to recuperate. I honestly had not ran in a year, just didnt have time to so I would work hard in the gym. I have been doing strenuous work in the gym making my lungs burn and I move alot/ bend my legs. Well I went running on Saturday at a track. I ran a mile(4 laps), then I upped the speed in the 2nd mile to finish it in about 7 minutes. My legs were so cramped right after that I couldnt even bounce on my feet until maybe 20 mins after which surprised me considering I use my legs alot. All of Saturday I could move around good but over night they got bad and yesterday I could really feel the soreness. I was trying to intake alot of protein so I could be ready to go to boxing again today but my legs are still sore to the point where it stings walking down stairs. I really want to go to boxing today I already missed 4 days. Whats going on here? What should I do? Im a hard worker and Im willing to push my body but sometimes my body just completely rejects that way of thinking for as tough as I want to be there is nothing I can do about it.

I actually push myself until I get physically sick. I break my body down far too much and then my immune system follows. I don't know another way. When I was in the Army my 2 mile time was the same when I started boot camp and when I finished my M.O.S. training 6 months later because I had to run at everybody elses pace.

[Rockin']

[QUOTE=Revilo;11492835]Listen to your body. Everyone is different. If you're too sore too work out you'll risk injury and you'll perform sluggishly anyhow. Take a few days off. If you absolutely must go to the gym, do light work focusing more on flexibility and let your body recover.

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We're trying to bring up fighters here Revilo. My boy fighting your boy would be like a pittbull fighting a puzzy cat, puzzy being the prime word..........Rockin'

[dctopboots01]

In a fight, you will have to fight through unbareable fatigue. Therefore, especially when you're sore, you should carry on pushing yourself. You will be teaching your body to work throught fatigue. It's amazing how your body adapts!

[Ray Corso]

If your getting into shape there will be walls that need to be opened and at times busted through. However if you continue to hit the wall once your in pretty good shape theres something wrong. The first approach is to make sure your hydrated and use water as much as additive drinks. You also need to rest your muscles after hard work outs you can easily get cronic muscle fatigue from lack of rest. Your diet will also have alot to do with how your body reacts to hard workouts. You need to take these basic observations into consideration and study how your body reacts to them. No one should be able to tell how you feel and why you feel the way you do. You need to consider a routine that stays on schedule as to running, eating, sleeping then training. We can be creatures of habit like most animals are so use that to your advantage. A solid routine and remaining on schedule lends to NO EXCUSES! Pretty good way to live even if you don't train. Ray.

[mushahadeen]

idk man those fat slobs on BIGGEST LOSER and USED TO BE FAT have never exercised in their lvies. and they exercise 4 hours a day. i know they're sore as hell.

granted, they have medical staff all over the place.

but if you're not that fat and out of shape, then what is your excuse?

if i'm injured, i'm injured. but i don't let soreness stop me. it goes away anyway.

when people on messageboards talk about "OVERTRAINING"? i'm like...are you serious? you're on this messageboard like 6 hours a day!!! how do you find the time to "OVERTRAIN"????

Floyd Mayweather might be in danger of overtraining...Manny Pacquiao might be in danger of overtraining...YOU ARE NOT in danger of overtraining!!!

[Rockin']

if im sore i don't train if i train when sore i will be even sore after and might get worse.

you will find yourself behind all of the other fighters in other gyms that started the same time that you did with that attitude. When you are in the competitive ring fighting and your shoulder gets sore do you just stop throwing punches or do you push through it and still try to win?

This thread has been the biggest in bull****, whining and in general just weak mentality.

For about the first month or month and a half after deciding to turn pro I could barely get out of bed each morning but I still went running. After waking from the run to go to the gym at noon again I could hardly get out of bed and walk. But each day I got to the gym, took the time to STRETCH PROPERLY and went to war. As soon as my trainer and I got together for a run at the pros he doubled what my previous workouts used to be. Thats 2X the rounds sparring, on the heavy bag, on the speed bag, on the double ended bag and floor work.

Yeah, I thought that I was gonna die working this hard day after day. But you know what, I didn't die and I made it through it injury free. After 2 months of being rediculously sore it just stopped hurting. Then I was able to go through the 2 1/2 workouts and I'd feel great after them. Needless to say I was a tough guy to come up against in sparring or in fights.

The one amatuer bout that I had after getting together with my trainer, before my pro debut, was a cake walk. I went down to Ohio to fight this cat that was turning pro soon aswell. I kicked his a$$ from corner to corner and this guy was supposed to be something good. I was beating on him so bad that at one point he lifted his foot from the canvas trying to cover his body with his leg, I was really puttin' some sauce on those ribs. Anyway, the ref gave him a standing 8 count at that point and I went on to win a decision by a huge margin.

The stiffness and soreness in the morning just tells you that you worked hard the night before. It does not mean that you have to rest, it means that you should get back in there and fight through it. Just always be sure to stretch properly before starting your workout.

Now if you want to disagree with what I said you certainly have the right to. But when fight night comes you'd better be praying that you don't come up against a guy with my training mentality because chances are that in the 2nd and 3rd rounds you will be far more tired than your opponent and he will just turn up the gas and beat on you.

Being in proper and excellent shape is 1/2 the fight if not more.......Rockin'

[Juof]

i dont think the boxers of old did 40 rounds + from taking a week off training