How far do you push your body if its sore?

[Rockin']

I know that, but it still needs rest to recover. You can't train 7 days a week at brutal intensity.

I trained 6 days a week at an extremely brutal intensity. Jackie Kallen can vouche for the physical demands put on me by my trainer. I was doing things that I never thought that I could before. The 1st step to doing anything is believing in yourself.........Rockin'

[THE REED]

because you are breaking the muscles down. break down, rebuild, repeat. There is no way that you would need 1 full week of rest for your muscles to rebuild.......Rockin'

If you are just starting out its very possible, especially depending on age and genetics.

If he is so sore he cant walk... The muscles are in no way healed, strengthened, or ready for more tearing.

As you continue to get into better and better shape, the soreness subsides and you are able to do more work, more often.

Which is why you can, and he can't yet.... You're in shape, and he isn't.

[Revilo]

because you are breaking the muscles down. break down, rebuild, repeat. There is no way that you would need 1 full week of rest for your muscles to rebuild.......Rockin'

If I do a workout for legs for example, I usually give them at least 3 or 4 days before I do legs again.

That doesn't mean I'm not going to the boxing gym to do boxing work, but it does mean I won't do legs till they're good and ready to go.

[Rockin']

If you are just starting out its very possible, especially depending on age and genetics.

If he is so sore he cant walk... The muscles are in no way healed, strengthened, or ready for more tearing.

As you continue to get into better and better shape, the soreness subsides and you are able to do more work, more often.

Which is why you can, and he can't yet.... You're in shape, and he isn't.

I wasn't in shape yet when this happened. This was probably 6 or 7 months before my first pro fight.

Like I said, when I was so sore that I could hardly walk I went down and threw fists with Bronco and Tarrick, back to back for 6 rounds. I only got stronger. Mind over body. If your shoulder is so stiff that it's kind of a struggle to get a punch out there will your arm fall off or break if you throw another punch?........Rockin'

[THE REED]

Well I'm happy that you can do that... however I'm not discussing machismo.

I'm talking about the negatives of over training, and the positive effects of healing your muscles properly.

I'm sure if I put a gun to the kids head he could go run another mile... but would this benefit him? Would he see strength gains from it WELL before his legs are finished healing?

No not really.... so what's the point.

If you throw another punch will your arm fall off? No, but again... will you see strength and stamina gains from doing this?

No, you will probably suffer muscle fatigue, and strength loss. It's just how the body works, the muscles need to heal before you tear them again to see strength and endurance gains.

[IronBoxer]

Well I'm happy that you can do that... however I'm not discussing machismo.

I'm talking about the negatives of over training, and the positive effects of healing your muscles properly.

I'm sure if I put a gun to the kids head he could go run another mile... but would this benefit him? Would he see strength gains from it WELL before his legs are finished healing?

No not really.... so what's the point.

If you throw another punch will your arm fall off? No, but again... will you see strength and stamina gains from doing this?

No, you will probably suffer muscle fatigue, and strength loss. It's just how the body works, the muscles need to heal before you tear them again to see strength and endurance gains.

Glad to see someone is making some sense

As for Rockin, your trolling suck. Sorry.

[Rockin']

Well I'm happy that you can do that... however I'm not discussing machismo.

I'm talking about the negatives of over training, and the positive effects of healing your muscles properly.

I'm sure if I put a gun to the kids head he could go run another mile... but would this benefit him? Would he see strength gains from it WELL before his legs are finished healing?

No not really.... so what's the point.

If you throw another punch will your arm fall off? No, but again... will you see strength and stamina gains from doing this?

No, you will probably suffer muscle fatigue, and strength loss. It's just how the body works, the muscles need to heal before you tear them again to see strength and endurance gains.

Glad to see someone is making some sense

As for Rockin, your trolling suck. Sorry.

well, lets just agree that we disagree then. Your theories are viable, I'm just telling you what I experienced and what everybody experienced. That was our schedule, 6 days per week with sundays off. And when your in the gym you simply bust your ass working. I don't see how you can say that it's bad. You train as you fight and you'll fight as you are trained. If my boy can go out there and throw punches for the entire 3 rounds wouldn't you agree that he would have a strong chance of winning an amatuer bout? I would estimate that 90% of fighters in the amatuers could not hold up to a constant pressure/attack through a 3 round bout. Most will succumb, it's a huge advantage.

And as for me being a troll I say this.....Rockin'

[Mike Haynes]

I dodnt know if its my specific body/genes but some times I feel like I cant push it as far as others. I feel like my muscles need more time to recuperate. I honestly had not ran in a year, just didnt have time to so I would work hard in the gym. I have been doing strenuous work in the gym making my lungs burn and I move alot/ bend my legs. Well I went running on Saturday at a track. I ran a mile(4 laps), then I upped the speed in the 2nd mile to finish it in about 7 minutes. My legs were so cramped right after that I couldnt even bounce on my feet until maybe 20 mins after which surprised me considering I use my legs alot. All of Saturday I could move around good but over night they got bad and yesterday I could really feel the soreness. I was trying to intake alot of protein so I could be ready to go to boxing again today but my legs are still sore to the point where it stings walking down stairs. I really want to go to boxing today I already missed 4 days. Whats going on here? What should I do? Im a hard worker and Im willing to push my body but sometimes my body just completely rejects that way of thinking for as tough as I want to be there is nothing I can do about it.

Come on man....I'm 41 years old, run 4 miles a day, 5 days a week (on a treadmill, but still) and lift 4 days a week. I used to spar 3-4 days a week with some homies and hit the bag.....Stop all that got damn *****ing.

[A7glow]

Sure I believe in rest. One day a week you take off from training and just go for a comfortable walk. The rest of the 6 days you are in a gym (I am speaking of professionals) Say that you train 60-90 days and no fights pop up take acouple of days, 3 days at the most and then your right back in the gym. Your muscles begin to disipate after 2 days of inactivity...........Rockin'

Have you ever taken an anatomy class? Your muscles don't dissipate after only two days, who told you that? Certainly not a physician. It can take over a month of no exercise before your muscles begin to "dissipate" if by "dissipate" you mean atrophy.

Also, to the thread starter, if you find yourself very sore after exercising there are several things you must do. First, do not stop exercising, rather, when you rise in the morning do your warm-ups. (I don't sport box, I do boxing of a different sort and we have our own warm-ups, I'm assuming you've been introduced to a few that will help you in the gym.) Do these warm-ups when you rise so that your body has time to warm up and loosen.

Then, before you run or jump into intense exercise, stretch. You should be stretching to prevent cramps as well as drinking large amounts of water and dieting well. Warming up before every exercise will insure that you can train harder and longer. Do not injure yourself. If you feel that something is off, I would suggest seeing a physician and talking to your coach/trainer about it. Don't fight through a potential injury, especially if it's a shoulder, hip, back, or knee injury. All of those can take a good deal of time to heal properly if they ever heal. Be mindful of your body, if something is painful (not burning, but sharp pain) don't do it. Again, when sore, do your warm-ups in the morning as soon as you rise. Stretch before intense exercise and also practice breathing. Do this daily and your body will grow use to your intense regimen and the soreness will dissipate. Hope that helped.

[jaded]

I trained 6 days a week at an extremely brutal intensity. Jackie Kallen can vouche for the physical demands put on me by my trainer. I was doing things that I never thought that I could before. The 1st step to doing anything is believing in yourself.........Rockin'

So when was this that Jackie Kallen was managing you.