new heavyweight.

[ShackC]

So i'm floating on 260 for now and stand at 6.5 ft. I know I have lots to learn. I just have a couple questions for now...

Do you guys think that someone who is 6'6" should not practice the bob n' weave because of being so tall, plus overall size?

also do you boxers out there punch with your last 3 smaller knuckles?

My coach really believes so. But coming from a martial arts up bringing, i'm sure that those are the weakest bones in the hand and would get broken very easily, hence the name "boxers fracture"

[{Pito}]

I have never heard of a coach who said to punch with the last 3 knuckles. Go to a reputable gym and learn from a good coach. You may go around for a bit till you find a great coach that you can match with.

[Lovely]

you should always learn how to dip a punch. if you fight someone your own height you dont wanna eat punches.

[ShackC]

thanks, i like what he has given me so far and for being a 65 year old man he has a **** ton of power, he speed bags better than most i've met and im not talkin the standard speed bagging either(back hands, straights, jabs, hooks, and yes combos the whole time). But those two things he said threw me off a little bit.

I don't have a very good boxing clinic or whatever around here, but my "team" is small and im the only really consistent one in the group. Therefore i have no training partner that i can do some heavier work on, and im about a foot taller than everyone, how should i go about practicing the bob n weave.

We do alot of strength drills, speed bag drills, and mitt work. We have a standing bag that we are using until the gym hangs my old heavy bag up. We haven't done any sparring yet, but itsa coming soon, as soon as we all buy our own gear.

[{Pito}]

Without a gym you wont learn how to.box properly and I would never stick to a coach who believes in punching with the last three knuckles that is simply.unheard of. How could there not be a gym around you. Where are you located? There has to be one. Or at least an MMA gym with boxing. Don't do it on your own. Go to a reptable gym its the only way to learn properly and get the sparring needed as well as a good coach.

[ShackC]

there's a few gyms about an hour away or so, redding submission is one i know of, im gonna be going there soon, then one called body project it in my town but its ran by a chick id have issues with that, not sexist or anything, i just cant do it.

my coach trained for 50 years at powerhouse in LA he has hella pictures and trophies of his fighting carreer. He is also a master in kung fu san su, i've seen paperwork, belt and certificate. But whatever, guess he likes boxers fracture. I still punch the way i was taught, first 2 knuckles, wrist and top of hand flat, slightly turned out to align the 2 knuckles up with the arm bones. Even modern gloves pretty much force you to punch properly anyways.

I dont know i like workin with this guy, ill get what i can out of him then step it up to a real gym. Plus this guy is free.

[Suckmedry]

If you are 6''5 the bob and weave isn't going to be a major part of your game as a fighter.

[BG_Knocc_Out]

Without a gym you wont learn how to.box properly and I would never stick to a coach who believes in punching with the last three knuckles that is simply.unheard of. How could there not be a gym around you. Where are you located? There has to be one. Or at least an MMA gym with boxing. Don't do it on your own. Go to a reptable gym its the only way to learn properly and get the sparring needed as well as a good coach.

Speaking from experience........... WORST IDEA POSSIBLE!!!


As far as the knuckles go, I honestly punch with my last 3 knuckles naturally, and I feel like when you punch like that you generate more power through your forearm because your clenching and focusing with your outer knuckles which overall takes control of the outer forearm muscles which are, in a sense, more connected with your biceps than the opposite forearm muscles that would be on the thumb side. An example of a fighter who punches like so would be Maidana or Micky Ward. I always call it "thudding" power. Doesn't have a lot of snap, but sure has a lot of force.

I don't know too much about using the pointer and middle knuckles as the ideal impact zone because I don't punch like that, but taking observations I see from others, you're able to snap and whip punches with more force and efficiency without having to over commit with each punch. Normally guys who punch like this can throw combinations much more efficiently also. I like to think guys like Khan and Mayweather do this.

My theory is that the last knuckles favor a more pushing impact rather than a whipping, retracted impact as you normally would see with the middle and pointer knuckles. Also take what I say with a grain of salt because I sure as shit am no scientist. I may be talking out of my ass for all I know, but this is all based on personal experience and an over-exaggerated thought.

[#1Assassin]

So i'm floating on 260 for now and stand at 6.5 ft. I know I have lots to learn. I just have a couple questions for now...

Do you guys think that someone who is 6'6" should not practice the bob n' weave because of being so tall, plus overall size?

also do you boxers out there punch with your last 3 smaller knuckles?

My coach really believes so. But coming from a martial arts up bringing, i'm sure that those are the weakest bones in the hand and would get broken very easily, hence the name "boxers fracture"

1. u should punch with all four knuckles (excluding the thumb ofcourse). when u make a correct fist all four knuckles should be lined up and your aim should be to land solidly with the entire fist.

2. a boxers fracture is breaking a bone in your hand and has nothing to do with the knuckles. idk if the smaller knuckles are weaker or not but i do know u shouldnt worry about that at all. they do not get broken easily, trust me. if u make a correct fist, wrap your hands and wear gloves it is very unlikely that u will seriously hurt your knuckles. they might get swollen and sore if u land alot of shots at the top of his head or elbows but they wont break.

3. u should learn to move your head no matter how tall u are. even if u might not weave a punch that often if u are 6'5 u still need to know how to do it to get some unpredictable headmovement going just to create a moving target. then i wouldnt recommend that u acctually got under alot of punches but u should slip punches, and for your headmovemt to be fluid and unpredictable that means u need to be comfortale moving it any way. up and down, side ti side, back and forth etc.

4. u shouldnt think too much about headmovement this early in your training, start out focusing on other fundamentals such as stance, footwork & balance, timing, punching technique etc. headmovemet is a bit more advanced so u should wait with it til u got the basics down. moving your head will get u off balance and make u more open to punches if your footwork isnt good.

[ShackC]

Thanks, so really the knuckles used is up to the fighter. I also train with both feet forward same motions n technique.

as for footwork the coach has me step in from around 6 feet away from the opponent, throw a jab or two, maybe jab hook, or other combos, get back out 6 feet or more. straight back, at an angle, or slide into the middle of the opponent on their jab side planted to throw a hard straight, then get back out. Keep em away with tons of step in jabs or light jabs, go back to midrange throw combos, back out.

What kind of foot drills are there that i need to start doing.

pretty much do some slow foot work, and lots of movement all over working the mitts, i throw then coach chases me down throwing, i gotta get away, stay away, wait go back in n throw.