Weight Training

[Bastian Loc]

can you elaborate on that or is that just opinion?

A planche pushup requires full body strength integration. He's just mad at me for no good reason.

[Spartacus Sully]

A planche pushup requires full body strength integration. He's just mad at me for no good reason.

its like doing a body weight bench press with your feet off the ground while laying on one of those giant yoga balls.

it stresses the entire body forcing your stabalizers and synergysts to become many times stronger.

I cant imagine any way some one can justify a box squat or power clean over a plance push up for functional strength.

[Darkstranger]

can you elaborate on that or is that just opinion?

It's because things like Squats, Deadlifts and Power Cleans have great carry over. That's why they are performed by so many proffessional and amateur sportsmen and women.

A point that many "functional" enthusiats ignore.

Planche Push Ups are very hard and impressive to watch, but if you're over 280lbs and 6'3" like me then you're gonna struggle to perform them. I went through a stage of trying them when I was boxing.

I'm into Powerlifting and Strongman stuff now, and I must admit, I wish I had my current strength levels when I was boxing.

[Spartacus Sully]

It's because things like Squats, Deadlifts and Power Cleans have great carry over. That's why they are performed by so many proffessional and amateur sportsmen and women.

A point that many "functional" enthusiats ignore.

Planche Push Ups are very hard and impressive to watch, but if you're over 280lbs and 6'3" like me then you're gonna struggle to perform them. I went through a stage of trying them when I was boxing.

I'm into Powerlifting and Strongman stuff now, and I must admit, I wish I had my current strength levels when I was boxing.

and 6'3" at 280 seems to go way beyond functional strength.

but assuming you can bench your body weight you should still be able to do a planche given the correct progression to strengthen your stabalizers and synergysts.

its no diffrent then going from a smith machine to a free barbell....its the same weight you just need to build up your stabalizers.

and a plance is like a push up and a plank which carries over just as well as squats and all that other stuff.

[Darkstranger]

can you elaborate on that or is that just opinion?

and 6'3" at 280 seems to go way beyond functional strength.

but assuming you can bench your body weight you should still be able to do a planche given the correct progression to strengthen your stabalizers and synergysts.

its no diffrent then going from a smith machine to a free barbell....its the same weight you just need to build up your stabalizers.

and a plance is like a push up and a plank which carries over just as well as squats and all that other stuff.

Functional for what exactly? Define functional strength.

People always throw around the term functional. How is being 280lbs at 6'3" beyond functional strength? I wasn't much lighter when I was boxing and doing bodyweight stuff to be honest.

I've read from various sites that taller heavier athletes have difficulty performing Planche Push Ups, I don't know how true that is.

[SplitSecond]

weights are for noobs who dont know enough about their body
unless a want to be a weightlifter, weights are aload of sh.it

[Spartacus Sully]

Functional for what exactly? Define functional strength.

People always throw around the term functional. How is being 280lbs at 6'3" beyond functional strength? I wasn't much lighter when I was boxing and doing bodyweight stuff to be honest.

I've read from various sites that taller heavier athletes have difficulty performing Planche Push Ups, I don't know how true that is.

functional well i guess its more my opinion, im 6'4" at 195 your 85 lbs heavier and 1 inch shorter then me some of that dosnt seem as functional as it could be i may be wrong though.

how long can you do a frog stand?

http://dragondoor.com/articler/mode3/229/

[Darkstranger]

functional well i guess its more my opinion, im 6'4" at 195 your 85 lbs heavier and 1 inch shorter then me some of that dosnt seem as functional as it could be i may be wrong though.

how long can you do a frog stand?

http://dragondoor.com/articler/mode3/229/

Nature built me this way.

I was 200lb and 6' as a skinny 14 year old.

Having never tried a frogstand, I doubt I'd even last a second.

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Calesthenics, Gymnastics, Kettlebells etc. All great workouts, I loved doing endless Burpees, jumping jacks etc when I boxed. I just don't buy into this whole "weights aren't functional" thing.

Take Strongmen for example. They carry very heavy awkward objects, not designed to be lifted. Many of those objects are unstable so would require what many would call "functional strength" and "core strength". The majority of strongmen build their base strength with basic barbell movements. The carry over from those movements aids progress in training events such as Atlas Stones, Farmers Walk etc.

[Spray_resistant]

"Functional strength", its all about looking good it tight fitting shirts.

[Holtol]

I worked with weights for some time and it helped a little in judo tournaments but not much. Weights did not help with my punching or my throwing or hitting ability at baseball.