Weight Training

[Jetlee1979]

Relax all, this ain’t the typical newbie post about weight training. Its more of a downsize question

I am 5-7 about 190lbs who used to bodybuild (Prob about 10lbs of extra fat atm)

Due to lifestyle changes I have taken up boxing and loving it. I can only dedicate 3 nights a week to boxing classes but want to hit the gym and weight train only once a week just to stay in the game.

So I’d like some advice on what exercises I should do to progress in boxing, as per bodypart – to assist speed and endurance WITHOUT the risk of gaining any more muscle mass – I would even be happy to loose muscle/size as I am getting sick of not fitting into today’s style of clothing.

[Jack3d]

In b4 calisthenics ****s

[Jetlee1979]

Well i do yoga once a week also but wanting more advice on exercises
I'm obviously doing fast pushups instead of bench press, I saw a youtube link with jeff fenech doing 3min round supersets with light hand weights which looked pretty hardcore too

Cheers

[Jack3d]

I said that because soon there are going to be a ****storm of people coming in this thread and saying all you need is basic calisthenics, and say you don't need weights for reasons that make absolutely no sense because most people on this site handing out advice have no concept of modern strength and conditioning practices.

Me, personally, I've always preferred Olympic and basic Heavy Compound lifts with some calisthenics thrown in and maybe some other accessory exercises.

For cardio, basic roadwork, windsprints, swimming, and maybe some barbell or dumbbell complexes should do it.

Lots of stretching as well, however if you are already doing yoga I'm sure you already know that.

[Klemman]

I also prefer the olympic lifts for speed and power. Full snatches, cleanand jerks, as well as power cleans and snatches. I'll also include push presses.

For strength, I like standing presses. While some might think that bench presses simulate punching because you are pressing forward relative to your body, it doesn't allow you to drive from your feet, to your legs, through your core, into your shoulders, and finally through your arms. If you want to simulate the single arm action similar to punches you can do alternating dumbell presses.

Another problem with benching is that your shoulders are supported by the bench. When punching someone there is no support.

When pressing, accelerate throughout the movement. Look up "compensatory acceleraton technique."

Finally, don't forget to do some kind of lat and rear deltoid work so that the muscles don't become imbalanced and you end up with a rotator cuff injury. I actually do 2 pulling exercises for every pushing exercise. Don't forget, you already really work out your pecs and front deltoids when boxing.

[Bastian Loc]

I said that because soon there are going to be a ****storm of people coming in this thread and saying all you need is basic calisthenics, and say you don't need weights for reasons that make absolutely no sense because most people on this site handing out advice have no concept of modern strength and conditioning practices.

Me, personally, I've always preferred Olympic and basic Heavy Compound lifts with some calisthenics thrown in and maybe some other accessory exercises.

For cardio, basic roadwork, windsprints, swimming, and maybe some barbell or dumbbell complexes should do it.

Lots of stretching as well, however if you are already doing yoga I'm sure you already know that.

You don't know that about posters here, you're just trying to diminish others who you disagree with.

And second, basic bodyweight exercises are great and go hand in hand with full body development unlike weight training which does not.

Furthermore, "calisthenics" can be modified in a million ways to humble any weigh lifter. I've seen it more than once.

Anyone can lift a weight, not everyone can do complex body weight exercises.

[Bastian Loc]

You religious weight lifters oughta try and do a planche pushup sometime and see how that works out for you.




You'll figure out pretty quickly how weak you are.

[Jack3d]

You don't know that about posters here, you're just trying to diminish others who you disagree with.

And second, basic bodyweight exercises are great and go hand in hand with full body development unlike weight training which does not.

Furthermore, "calisthenics" can be modified in a million ways to humble any weigh lifter. I've seen it more than once.

Anyone can lift a weight, not everyone can do complex body weight exercises.

You religious weight lifters oughta try and do a planche pushup sometime and see how that works out for you.




You'll figure out pretty quickly how weak you are.

Are you going to lend advice or are you just content to bash people who incorporate weights into their regimen?

A planche push-up is hard, and even though I can do about 3 clean ones, just because and exercise is hard doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be beneficial or more functional than another exercise.

Exercises like the planche push-up is more or less and exercise that says "ooh look at me look what I can do"

In essence a planche push up only makes you better at planche push-ups. A correctly performed power clean or Box Squat is much more functional and beneficial for an athlete.

And size down your ****ing sig. It takes up half the ****ing page every time you post.

[Bastian Loc]

Are you going to lend advice or are you just content to bash people who incorporate weights into their regimen?

A planche push-up is hard, and even though I can do about 3 clean ones, just because and exercise is hard doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be beneficial or more functional than another exercise.

And size down your ****ing sig. It takes up half the ****ing page every time you post.

Your memory is fuzzy. You were mean to me first.

I can't size down the sig, I lost a bet and have to keep that ****** **** there till Jan 1st.

Post of a video of you doing planche pushups.

Most people can't even come close to doing one.

[Spartacus Sully]

In essence a planche push up only makes you better at planche push-ups. A correctly performed power clean or Box Squat is much more functional and beneficial for an athlete.

can you elaborate on that or is that just opinion?