pushups or bench press

[thatjamaicanguy]

this thread fails. both.

I agree, the best way to build power is to work on your technique

[IronBoxer]

BTW...Hershel Walker claims he no longer lifts weights...but back in the day when he played in the NFL he was a monster and weight training was a big part of his life.

Really? I heard he never lifted weights during his collegiate and professional career, only body-weight exercises and the only time he did lift weights was for the Combine test where he surprisingly out-repped everyone else

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Really? I heard he never lifted weights during his collegiate and professional career, only body-weight exercises and the only time he did lift weights was for the Combine test where he surprisingly out-repped everyone else

His high school couldn't afford weights. He started in '82 during the end of college at 20 yrs old...1 year before turning pro. Read at the bottom of the second page where he talks of the progress he was starting to make with weight lifting...nobody gets that big without lifting weights. He waited until he felt he was unable to make progress anymore without weightlifting and knew that other athletes had made great progress with it and did not become slow. It was basically his teens in which he did not lift weights...and that's not unusual even for someone who will become a pro.



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BTW...this is what he looked like in his senior college year at Georgia...which is very different from what he turned into with full on weight training (and likely other things besides exercise)

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look at these guys, no weights

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look at these guys, no weights

and no legs...

[Silkster]

Joe Louis didn't bench press and neither did Joe Fraiser. Both were strong as oxes and could punch a hole thru a brick wall.
Stay true like the old school vets do. Pushups are better. Lifting weights in general imo just isn't as good as using what the good lord gave you. Weight training is for bodybuilders, and guys trying out for the cast of jersey shore. Its really unnessesary for a pugalist.

[the_blueprint]

look up hanniball king on youtube, all he does are bodyweight excersises. he has been doing it for 16 years, but his strength is unreal and he is really really toned

[JC Warrior]

You want a defined chest then it's a no-brainer - bench press. Finger striations in the middle, squared-off and chiseled chest will come from far fewer reps of weighted bench press than a comparative amount of pushups. To get the chest gains from pushups you would have to be in the Herschel Walker mode of 1500+ pushups a day.

For a defined chest its bench all the way.

[salem-no1]

Honestly i only read the first page of information but the all the advice is wrong and "bro-science" none of them actualy know what there talking about.

I study sport strength and conditioning at university, here is a proper explanation, take it or leave it.

It all depends on the rep range, amount of sets and resistance. For boxing, you want to build POWER and to get your maximum potential of your power you need STRENGH. Now how do you train strengh and power. Far to complex to go into the ins and outs on here, however.....

To train Strengh you want to be working at 90% of your 1RM with a rep range of 4-6, your intensions should be to move the weight as fast as you can, this will recruit fast twitch muscle fibres. When training power you need to be at 70% to 85% of your 1rm with a rep range of 3-5 sets ranging from 2-6 on both strengh and power depending on your exercises.

Doing high numbers of Press ups recruit slow twitch muscle the wrong sort of muscle fibres to build power and strengh, which is what we all want. Press ups build muscular endurance, something i prefer to gain from punching the bag, doing the pads, shadow boxing and sparring. The only practical use for press ups in training is not in my strength and conditioing sessions. In a boxing session inbetween rounds, you could **** out 20 press ups to simulate fatigue.

I know im going against the old school methods here and 99.999% percent of past and present champions havnt used these methods and look at there success and power in there punches. However science has advanced, look at every other sports training methods change within the last 20 years , where as boxing has been left in stone age.
contact me on saidsalem@hotmail.co.uk if your interested in a personalized Strength and Conditioning program.

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and no legs...

still stronger and look better than 99% of people in the gym