pushups or bench press

[BrooklynBomber]

There's other people that look just like him that do the same thing. I've seen interviews where he does thousands of reps of pushups, dips, pull ups etc.

With that kind of volume of course he can look like that naturally.

Try doing 30 pullups a day nonstop and I guarantee you'll look pretty damn good, much less doing 300.

Of course its possible, how do you think guys got big in the past before the invention of gyms and workout machines?

Come on man, you ever see a Roman centurion waiting to use the curl machine?

Pullups a great movement, but if you can do 30 bodyweight pull ups, try doing 10 with 50 pounds attached to your belt.

BTW, roman centurions did quite a bit of weight training, in fact we got most of our training principles coming from the ancient greek era. Moreover, we also have our "perfect proportions" principles from the greeks.
Although back then trainees mostly concentrated on deadlifts and shoulder press variations rather then bench press.

[Bastian Loc]

Pullups a great movement, but if you can do 30 bodyweight pull ups, try doing 10 with 50 pounds attached to your belt.

BTW, roman centurions did quite a bit of weight training, in fact we got most of our training principles coming from the ancient greek era. Moreover, we also have our "perfect proportions" principles from the greeks.
Although back then trainees mostly concentrated on deadlifts and shoulder press variations rather then bench press.

I'm not against ALL weight training, like your pull up example or attaching a little extra weight on dips or something.

For me its just a supplemental thing, but 95% of everything else I do is centered around body weight.

[led]

Pushups are far superior and provide you with functional strength unlike benching which just isolates one part of the body.

Don't listen to all this disinfo, you can be plenty ripped doing pushups alone and bodyweight exercises in general are just better for all around fitness.


Pushups also work out more parts of the body at once so you get more **** for your buck doing one pushup.

Weights are literally a waste of your time except for very narrow uses.

I'm pretty sure there are guys here that can bench a **** load of weight and look cool at they gym in front of other guys but probably couldn't do the more difficult push up variations, much less something like a one handed pushup or a planche pushup.

i agree, on functional strength push ups, IMO, is better as long as you dont do the traditional one.

i was once in this gym, where a friend's friend boast of 200 lbs benche press with matching irritating moans. i got irritated so i dared him. i can bench press at least 150 lbs. but ill a have a one arm push ups of 20 reps to his 5. damn, he could barely do at least 2.

[Jim Jeffries]

Of course its possible, I think some people are just threatened by it because they do weights and they feel like we're diminishing weight training.

You wanna do weights? Do weights, but don't sneer at those who choose other paths because you can get results other ways that I would argue are better for overall fitness anyway.

Without wasting money and time driving to a gym all the time.

I always get a kick out of the people who drive around the gym parking lot for 10 min looking for a parking spot close to the entrance.

And yeah there's no one perfect method for putting on/maintaining muscle mass. I've been accused of doing steroids, even now all I have to do is throw a wife beater on to get stares/compliments, and I probably don't spend 20 minutes a week on strength training, eat pretty much whatever I feel like (though I do eat fairly healthy overall.)

[XionComrade]

I read the bolded and had the "lmao" moment.
You do realize that bench press movement starts with the legs, it is NOT an isolation movement. Correct bench press form, the form that lets you actually press serious weight, recruits almost every major muscle group on your body.
Now, I got to admit that bench press is not the best exercise in the gym for overall strength or fitness, but to dismiss it as "for the show" is completely bias and unnecessary.

Yeah I gotta go with Insect, you went full ****** on this one lol

[Spray_resistant]

No reason why you couldn't incorporate both in your chest routine but with both to develop a well defined chest you need to hit different parts of the muscle and you can do that with inclines at different levels for both the bench and push ups. dumbell flies are good too also at different inclines.

[josh-hill]

wich is best depends what you want to do. essentialy they are the same though, but with benching you have more control over the weight. you can go suoer light or realy heavy so it can be tailored to what you want to work on. so i say bench wins

[Spartacus Sully]

Pullups a great movement, but if you can do 30 bodyweight pull ups, try doing 10 with 50 pounds attached to your belt.

BTW, roman centurions did quite a bit of weight training, in fact we got most of our training principles coming from the ancient greek era. Moreover, we also have our "perfect proportions" principles from the greeks.
Although back then trainees mostly concentrated on deadlifts and shoulder press variations rather then bench press.

if you can do 30 body weight pull ups then you should say **** weights and work on doing front levers and over the bar pull ups staggered pull ups and 1 arm pull ups till instead of 30 body weight pull ups your doing 30 front levers or you could incorporate time into the routine. a pro rock climber routine i read once had you hang for 10 seconds do a slow pull up hold out on the top till you dropped then hang for 11 seoncds and do te same thing then 12 ect ect till you cant then just reverse back to 10 seonds. and you know that when your hanging to do a pull up your shoulders should allways be flexed right?


as far as push ups and bench pressing goes i guess both are good push ups maybe better for functional strength but for a boxer i would recommend decline push ups or incline bench presses much much more.

[alza1988]

You could even do both or mix it up with like weighted vest push-ups and that 1 arm push-ups but I would go with bench because you can go alot heavier .Push-ups are still good tho alot of world champs never lifted a weight I read on Rosstraining .Calzaghe was one .

[renren40]

do what i do...

work the bench (flat, incline, decline)

then butterflies

then 4 sets of pushups until muscle failure for eac set