Boxing and Weightlifting

[peewee1460]

it's whatever works for you. I've seen guys become more explosive and all around better fighters from lifting and i've watched guys gas and tighten up from lifting.

The reason most boxing trainers tell you not to lift is to prevent guys from doing 3 sets of 8 and killing their stamina.

but, bottom line is, it's whatever works for you.

[Danny Gunz]

it's whatever works for you. I've seen guys become more explosive and all around better fighters from lifting and i've watched guys gas and tighten up from lifting.

The reason most boxing trainers tell you not to lift is to prevent guys from doing 3 sets of 8 and killing their stamina.

but, bottom line is, it's whatever works for you.

true that all of our bodies are different.

[Danny Gunz]

Bump, cause i have seen some more weightlifting threads pop up

[Darkstranger]

your point would be? that weight liftting is better then not weight lifting?

that would be wrong for many reasons.

1. wight lifting takes energy that you could be using for actual boxing related activities. (alittle strength isnt going to beat good technique)

2. weight lifting takes energy taht you could be using for endurance and stamina training. ( whats the use in a little strength if you cant move or hold your hands up)

3. many weight lifting exercises use more muscles then just the one your trying to isolate, not just building up muscles but building up useless muscles.

4. with compond exercises and weight lifting diffrent weights would be required for diffrent muscles to get the proper exercise. since you do compound movements the muscles your focusing on are going to be built the way you want but the support muscles that are also involved in the lift and have no need to even be worked except for the lift may very well be just getting bigger with out actually getting stronger while neither of which is really needed.

5. working extra muscles means that your body has to recover and repair extra muscles greatly reducing your rate of recovery.

as just a few reasons as why not to weight lift even if you know exactlly what your are doing.

the only weights any one should ever lift are for shrugs as they isolate the neck shoulders back and serratus anterior muscles (nothing useless) and you can do **** loads of them working endurance and speed (avoiding only hypertropy in any of the included muscles).

plus shrugs are a very important part of removing the worthless push up from your rountine as it provides an excelent isolation of the serratus anterior which working that and the intercostals are the only purpose for push ups, thus alllowing you to avoid worthless hypertrophy in the sternal head of the pectorals major and worthless hypertrophy in the biceps.

All nonsense lol

Isolations? That's the last thing a boxer should be doing. Isolations are what Bodybuilders do to build up lagging body parts.

Squatting and Deadlifting (Compound movements) should be used to strengthen your posterior chain, in other words your back, glutes and hamstrings.

This is the funniet sentence:

3. many weight lifting exercises use more muscles then just the one your trying to isolate, not just building up muscles but building up useless muscles.

I suggest you read starting strength by Mark Rippotoe. Educate yourself on proper strength training before you come out with ludicrous claims.

[Spartacus Sully]

All nonsense lol

Isolations? That's the last thing a boxer should be doing. Isolations are what Bodybuilders do to build up lagging body parts.

Squatting and Deadlifting (Compound movements) should be used to strengthen your posterior chain, in other words your back, glutes and hamstrings.

This is the funniet sentence:

3. many weight lifting exercises use more muscles then just the one your trying to isolate, not just building up muscles but building up useless muscles.

I suggest you read starting strength by Mark Rippotoe. Educate yourself on proper strength training before you come out with ludicrous claims.

is he a boxer?

dead lifting:

Torso
Front
Abdomen
Rectus abdominis (under aponeurosis)
Obliques
Abdominal external oblique muscle
Back
Iliocostalis
Intertransversarii laterales lumborum
Latissimus dorsi
Levator scapulae
Longissimus
Quadratus lumborum
Rhomboideus major
Serratus posterior superior
Serratus posterior inferior
Splenius cervicis
Teres Major
T****zius muscle
Legs
Quadriceps
Rectus femoris
Vastus lateralis
Vastus intermedius
Vastus medialis
Hamstrings
Biceps femoris muscle, long head
Biceps femoris muscle, short head
Semitendinosus
Semimembranosus
Hips
Gluteal muscles
Gluteus maximus
Gluteus minimus
Piriformis
Superior gemellus
Forearms
Flexor digitorum profundus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadlift

seems to work alot more then back glutes and hamstrings...

[Darkstranger]

your point would be? that weight liftting is better then not weight lifting?

that would be wrong for many reasons.

1. wight lifting takes energy that you could be using for actual boxing related activities. (alittle strength isnt going to beat good technique)

2. weight lifting takes energy taht you could be using for endurance and stamina training. ( whats the use in a little strength if you cant move or hold your hands up)

3. many weight lifting exercises use more muscles then just the one your trying to isolate, not just building up muscles but building up useless muscles.

4. with compond exercises and weight lifting diffrent weights would be required for diffrent muscles to get the proper exercise. since you do compound movements the muscles your focusing on are going to be built the way you want but the support muscles that are also involved in the lift and have no need to even be worked except for the lift may very well be just getting bigger with out actually getting stronger while neither of which is really needed.

5. working extra muscles means that your body has to recover and repair extra muscles greatly reducing your rate of recovery.

as just a few reasons as why not to weight lift even if you know exactlly what your are doing.

the only weights any one should ever lift are for shrugs as they isolate the neck shoulders back and serratus anterior muscles (nothing useless) and you can do **** loads of them working endurance and speed (avoiding only hypertropy in any of the included muscles).

plus shrugs are a very important part of removing the worthless push up from your rountine as it provides an excelent isolation of the serratus anterior which working that and the intercostals are the only purpose for push ups, thus alllowing you to avoid worthless hypertrophy in the sternal head of the pectorals major and worthless hypertrophy in the biceps.

is he a boxer?

dead lifting:


seems to work alot more then back glutes and hamstrings...

Yep, many of which are part of the posterior chain.

Mark Rippotoe is a well respected strength coach.

[Spartacus Sully]

Yep, many of which are part of the posterior chain.

Mark Rippotoe is a well respected strength coach.

many of which are pointless to the sport of boxing, and on top of that have no need to be trained for maximal strength.

so no, hes not a boxer.

[Darkstranger]

many of which are pointless to the sport of boxing, and on top of that have no need to be trained for maximal strength.

so no, hes not a boxer.

Posterior Chain useless to boxing????? mmmmm ok mate lmfao!

[Trick]

There is almost no muscle in the body that is "useless" for a boxer. While there aren't many that a boxer will want to "grow", pretty much every muscle should be trained. That's why things like pull-ups are a staple exercise for a fighter- they train so many muscle groups.

And for the record- a boxer should generally favour compound exercises over isolation movements.

[Danny Gunz]

Bump....

And to the guy up there, do you realize that a punch in itself is a compound movement?