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  • #11
    get some deca son

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    • #12
      Dysentry is a good way to lose weight, swign up on a pirate vessel and we'll have you trim in no time.

      death is a possible side effect

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Squirrel View Post
        No, you can't, it's physically impossible. Building mscle is essentially like building a house, you need the building blocks (bricks and mortar/protein and water) and a mechanism for the process (bricklayers/energy). Without the energy you won't build the muscle no matter how much you lift and how much protein you ingest.


        Take a 10 day break from your routine and go back to it. You may be overtraining so try cutting back a little on your current routine. Also look at your diet, thats the absolute key.

        Simplify things to two interval sessions a week, one long walk a week and mebbe two weight lifting sessions (stick to simple compound movements).

        Remember losing fat is a long and hard process, don't get on the scales and stare at yourself in the mirror daily. This takes weeks and months.
        Yes i agree it will take weeks, but i have been in the gym for 3 months and i feel my fat has gone down but not weight. I have packed alot of muscle and stand straight up rather than a weak poor postured fatty.

        Originally posted by SwoleBiceps View Post
        You can't put on muscle and cut at the same time. You have to pick one or the other.

        Are you eating in small portions?

        What is your sodium intake?
        Urrrm i Vince DelMone says that if you do 15mins of hard interval training before you start your weights, it boosts the fat burning. Together with weights such was lat pull downs and fast dumbell dead-lifts.

        Small portions? - Breakfast - cereal and coffee, then protein shake as my mini meal/snack, then rice and chicken(cooked healthy) then last night i had 2 chicken legs, 4 small potatoes sliced. But yesterday was a rest day. (Usually id go gym at 2pm or 6/7pm)

        Salt is low... although i find when i wake up i am 3/4lbs less of water. My water retention is quite high and i look fat, mid afternoon? why is that, when i am defined and toned in the morning?

        Originally posted by Ruby Robert View Post
        there is alot more too it and while you may not be able to build muscle with a calorie decficit as your body can use protien, fat or carbs to create energy if you were able to eat enough protien that you wernt in a calorie deficit you would be able to build muscle.
        indeed. i think my calories are below 1800 and thats about rite if i want to be around super middle weight. But yet i dont lose weight.. or maybe im not eating small meals...?

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        • #14
          Originally posted by !! 2Tough !! View Post
          indeed. i think my calories are below 1800 and thats about rite if i want to be around super middle weight. But yet i dont lose weight.. or maybe im not eating small meals...?
          It takes time.

          small meals are nice for 2 reasons: therezs taht whole 6 small meal thing because it keeps your metabolism going full force all the time but also your stomach will actually shrink from eating little meals which will cause you to get full more quickly since you dont have as much to fill up.....though you shouldn't be eating till your full any ways.

          If you can maintain the routine your doing with some breaks hear and there like taking a week or a week end off till this time next year you will probly arrive at all your goals.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Ruby Robert View Post
            It takes time.

            small meals are nice for 2 reasons: therezs taht whole 6 small meal thing because it keeps your metabolism going full force all the time but also your stomach will actually shrink from eating little meals which will cause you to get full more quickly since you dont have as much to fill up.....though you shouldn't be eating till your full any ways.

            If you can maintain the routine your doing with some breaks hear and there like taking a week or a week end off till this time next year you will probly arrive at all your goals.
            Yes that would be a good idea..

            So how does Ricky Hatton lose alllllllll his weight so quickly???? He can do it in 3 month training camps...

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            • #16
              Originally posted by !! 2Tough !! View Post
              Yes that would be a good idea..

              So how does Ricky Hatton lose alllllllll his weight so quickly???? He can do it in 3 month training camps...
              foundation? like when your a fat ass that can train 5 hours a day 5 days a week and you follow a diet you can lose a **** load quickly it just takes time to get up to training for 5 hours a day 5 days a week.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by !! 2Tough !! View Post



                Urrrm i Vince DelMone says that if you do 15mins of hard interval training before you start your weights, it boosts the fat burning. Together with weights such was lat pull downs and fast dumbell dead-lifts.
                I don't really understand how that works, maybe you aren't explaining it well enough.




                Small portions? - Breakfast - cereal and coffee, then protein shake as my mini meal/snack, then rice and chicken(cooked healthy) then last night i had 2 chicken legs, 4 small potatoes sliced. But yesterday was a rest day. (Usually id go gym at 2pm or 6/7pm)
                Small portions meaning 6-8 small meals per day. Instead of 3 big meals and a snack.

                Ditch the cereal for Egg Whites and Oatmeal. Chicken Breasts instead of thighs, eat yams or sweet potatoes instead of regular potatoes, make sure you are eating Brown instead of white rice.

                Drink your Protein shakes post workout and before you go to bed.


                Salt is low... although i find when i wake up i am 3/4lbs less of water. My water retention is quite high and i look fat, mid afternoon? why is that, when i am defined and toned in the morning?
                Because you are fasting while you sleep and your body also burns fat at a low heart rate so...

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                • #18
                  I don't really understand how that works, maybe you aren't explaining it well enough.
                  Here is the vid:

                  Listen to what he says at the start:





                  Small portions meaning 6-8 small meals per day. Instead of 3 big meals and a snack.
                  That isnt realistic... i wake up at 9am and go sleep at 11pm. You want me to eat every 2.5 hours?(6 meals) / 1.75 hours(8 meals)... Ok are you suggesting i eat like 2-3 mouthful's of food per meal? lol that sounds silly..

                  Ditch the cereal for Egg Whites and Oatmeal. Chicken Breasts instead of thighs, eat yams or sweet potatoes instead of regular potatoes, make sure you are eating Brown instead of white rice.
                  ok but the egg white does not contain the most protein, its actually the yolk. I have started to eat Oats with some honey.

                  What difference does yams or sweet potatoes make? Its all carbs isnt it? I might have pasta or a wrap in place of them..

                  Drink your Protein shakes post workout and before you go to bed.
                  I always have it post workout, but why before bed? I thought isolate is pre-digested and the body wont 'take' it, and it will remain in the gut, as the body does not require it at night? Dont i need casein or something like a concentrate which is slow release at night??


                  Because you are fasting while you sleep and your body also burns fat at a low heart rate so...
                  I thought it was water loss??????? no way i am burning 3lbs of fat in 7 hours of sleep lollllllll

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                  • #19
                    Is drinking lots of water a must for dropping weight?

                    im a tad under 6ft atm and 14 st 3 im hoping to get down to 12-13 stone, i absolutely hate drinking water and drink tonnes of diet coke, will i have to ditch this to lose 2 stone or so?

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by WAR ENGLAND View Post
                      Is drinking lots of water a must for dropping weight?

                      im a tad under 6ft atm and 14 st 3 im hoping to get down to 12-13 stone, i absolutely hate drinking water and drink tonnes of diet coke, will i have to ditch this to lose 2 stone or so?
                      Yes.

                      coke is just empty calories and sugar that will be turned into fat if you don't burn it all off. Replace that with hydration that doesn't include calories. Which is water.

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