Kickboxing/ Muay Thai

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I do them both. They both offer different tools to be used. In Muay Thai you learn obviously fighting with all your limbs, but also you learn to fight in the clinch and utilize your knees and elbows as well as sweeps and throws.

Boxing, where it lacks the various strikes from other body parts, makes up for it with much better footwork, hands, defense, and head movement.

All in all though, boxing supplements Muay Thai more than Muay Thai supplements boxing.

How can you say that boxing is better than Muay Thai when it comes to footwork and defense ?

First, the way you block punches in boxing is the same way in Muay Thai, hell, Muay Thai fighters actually have to learn to defend a variety of things, whereas boxing only has to worry about two fists.

Footwork, how so ? it's the same with a slight variation.

You skip in and skip out in boxing as you do in Muay Thai. Do you ever notice that Muay Thai fighters don't move around like some boxers by using the entire ring to evade an opponent, ala Phony Boy, Ali, SRL ? That is because it is frowned upon in Muay Thai, it is seen as a sign of weakness.

Muay Thai coaches teach their fighters how to move around and give angles, but you don't see it applied often in fights, it's an unwritten rule between combatants, it's the whole "macho mentality" of "i can take yours, but can you take mine" similar to the Mexican boxers.

[eXeC]

I did both. Muay Thai really helps with the kicks but they have lack in the fundamentals of boxing. I box now. But the Dutch have their own kickboxing which focuses much more on using your hands. Example; Schilt, Melvin, Badr, Spong (Trained with Mayweather actually), and Souwer.

[thegamesartist]

I've always found Mauy Thai a bit stiff and square on for me, I like the rythm and style of boxing better.

[Nick Fury]

tougher sport than boxing?


as in pain and fitness?

Definitely, i found the conditioning and sparring to be a lot tougher than boxing.

[oniham]

I started with boxing and have added san shou on days im not working on boxing and it is rough. I love it though, I think it's a bit more fun than boxing and the workouts are pretty rough. If I didn't start out boxing I would probably die from the conditioning they have me do there. For anyone that hates on kickboxing they don't realize how hard these dudes kick, **** is no joke.

[Left2theliver]

How can you say that boxing is better than Muay Thai when it comes to footwork and defense ?

First, the way you block punches in boxing is the same way in Muay Thai, hell, Muay Thai fighters actually have to learn to defend a variety of things, whereas boxing only has to worry about two fists.

Footwork, how so ? it's the same with a slight variation.

You skip in and skip out in boxing as you do in Muay Thai. Do you ever notice that Muay Thai fighters don't move around like some boxers by using the entire ring to evade an opponent, ala Phony Boy, Ali, SRL ? That is because it is frowned upon in Muay Thai, it is seen as a sign of weakness.

Muay Thai coaches teach their fighters how to move around and give angles, but you don't see it applied often in fights, it's an unwritten rule between combatants, it's the whole "macho mentality" of "i can take yours, but can you take mine" similar to the Mexican boxers.

I'm talking defense from punches. A lot Muay Thai guys, both amateur and higher level, tend to cover up. Boxing helps with the head movement overall. Thai fighters are very straight forward, i understand the whole "Im better than you so i'ma just get in your face" deal but that doesn' necessarily help with the guy infront of you hits hard as hell. From my experience anyways, boxing has always helped with being abe to move in out, cut corners, etc. Muay Thai's very lateral.

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I'm talking defense from punches. A lot Muay Thai guys, both amateur and higher level, tend to cover up. Boxing helps with the head movement overall. Thai fighters are very straight forward, i understand the whole "Im better than you so i'ma just get in your face" deal but that doesn' necessarily help with the guy infront of you hits hard as hell. From my experience anyways, boxing has always helped with being abe to move in out, cut corners, etc. Muay Thai's very lateral.

Who cares about head movement, it actually ends up being detrimental to a Thai fighter to be moving his head like a boxer, or skipping around the ring. The Thais will just kick the **** out of you if you're bouncin' around like Ali or make you eat a knee when moving the head like a boxer.

Why do you think boxing coaches when teaching MMA fighters have to make adjustments when they train them ? Head movement is not as important when you're dealing with kicking and kneeing.

And for the poster that mentioned that the Thais are too erect, well, duh, it only makes sense. Being more upright enables the Thai to unleash their kicks with ease, can you imagine trying to unleash kicks from a crouched position, it can be done, but, it just comes out slower.

[AddiX]

I do them both. They both offer different tools to be used. In Muay Thai you learn obviously fighting with all your limbs, but also you learn to fight in the clinch and utilize your knees and elbows as well as sweeps and throws.

Boxing, where it lacks the various strikes from other body parts, makes up for it with much better footwork, hands, defense, and head movement.

All in all though, boxing supplements Muay Thai more than Muay Thai supplements boxing.

That pretty much explains my experience. I never did Muay Thai for long but did mess around with it for a bit.

As far as toughness to learn and do, I rate them the same, both are extremely hard sports.

[Pork Chop]

muay thai and boxing here
i've always done boxing concurrent with kickboxing (muay thai or san shou), i'm talking separate coach and everything.
after i'm done with my graduate degree i have 2 goals
one is to spend time at a thai training camp in thailand (contrary to popular belief they don't always spar hard at all)
the other is to compete in the 35 and over golden gloves, which means that boxing will probably be my main form of training.


the biggest difference between the two, to me, is competition.
you can get good experience at amateur boxing and trust that you're not being sandbagged.
if you're doing muay thai or san shou, count on your opponent having 2 or 3 times your experience (my first fight was against a guy with at least 8 fights).

[1 on 1]

muay thai and boxing here
i've always done boxing concurrent with kickboxing (muay thai or san shou), i'm talking separate coach and everything.
after i'm done with my graduate degree i have 2 goals
one is to spend time at a thai training camp in thailand (contrary to popular belief they don't always spar hard at all)
the other is to compete in the 35 and over golden gloves, which means that boxing will probably be my main form of training.


the biggest difference between the two, to me, is competition.
you can get good experience at amateur boxing and trust that you're not being sandbagged.
if you're doing muay thai or san shou, count on your opponent having 2 or 3 times your experience (my first fight was against a guy with at least 8 fights).

What area are you going for in your grad degree ?

Also, how long do you plan to stay in Thailand, if you do go ahead with that trip ?