WEIGHTS HELP: Strength Training Program

[Righthandbanger]

Just because a program works for some doesnt mean it will work with others... I definitely know what im talkin about when it comes to the weights buddy, believe me... I just dont feel like going into a long post elaborating about it.... You keep posting a link that noone else follows isnt doing anyone any good

you dont know ****, clearly. stronglifts works for everyone hands down. unless you have injuries preventing you from doing squat,press,bench,deadlift,chins,dips and barbell rows you WILL progress with stronglifts. plus they have more than one program.

and at least one guy has used it, he let me know in a +rep

[hateinyaeyes32]

you dont know ****, clearly. stronglifts works for everyone hands down. unless you have injuries preventing you from doing squat,press,bench,deadlift,chins,dips and barbell rows you WILL progress with stronglifts. plus they have more than one program.

and at least one guy has used it, he let me know in a +rep

Clearly, I do know ****, Ive been lifting weights for years kid. I never said stronglifts dont work but they arent always the best for boxing.... If youre weak then yes, use them, but if your strong on the weights like I am, I just lift high reps and power lifting both, not just one or the other, plus bodyweight exercises, but the main one that works best for me is bodyweight exercises as for boxing "strength".... So dont come in here acting like your some professional power lifter or something and trying to talk ****, your cleary butt hurt because I called you out for trying to make me look dumb, and trying to say i dont know what im talking about.... Ive lifted weights for years kiddo so why dont you run along and go play in another thread he said he wants people who know what theyre talking about to help him out, and that obviously wouldn't qualify you!

[Righthandbanger]

Clearly, I do know ****, Ive been lifting weights for years kid. I never said stronglifts dont work but they arent always the best for boxing.... If youre weak then yes, use them, but if your strong on the weights like I am, I just lift high reps and power lifting both, not just one or the other, plus bodyweight exercises, but the main one that works best for me is bodyweight exercises as for boxing "strength".... So dont come in here acting like your some professional power lifter or something and trying to talk ****, your cleary butt hurt because I called you out for trying to make me look dumb, and trying to say i dont know what im talking about.... Ive lifted weights for years kiddo so why dont you run along and go play in another thread he said he wants people who know what theyre talking about to help him out, and that obviously wouldn't qualify you!

I love how people think that lifting weigths for years automatically makes you an expert on the subject. I've been breathing air my whole life does that mean I'm an expert on it? does that mean I have an in depth understanding of what happens when I breathe in air, and the subsequent chemical reactions.. well actually in this case yes, because I was a biology student but my point still stands.

Boxing 'strength' and 'strength' are the same thing. Boxers do not require excessive strength, but an increase in physical strength is necessary for an increase in power. high rep low weight is only good for hypertrophy and/or muscular endurance training, endurance training should be done at other times, and hypertrophy has no place in boxing.

I notice you said you're strong, which is great, good for you, but in that case lifting with a proper program would make you stronger.

[Dirt]

i hate the myth about lifting weights slowing you down. maybe its from hypertrpohy. like the guy above said, has no place in boxing, unless you're trying to move up in weight or something.

if you train for speed you will increase it.

[chessplayer163]

MONEY MAY all natural

Money May said himself that he only lifts bodyweight stuff. It's the best for boxing. It gives you the best results. Weights is hard on your joints breaks your body down and causes numerous injuries. Bodyweight is actually harder way more reps and cardio. I'm a wrestler and switched to bodyweight stuff and my strength exploded, I drank the weights kool aid too long.

[Righthandbanger]

Money May said himself that he only lifts bodyweight stuff. It's the best for boxing. It gives you the best results. Weights is hard on your joints breaks your body down and causes numerous injuries. Bodyweight is actually harder way more reps and cardio. I'm a wrestler and switched to bodyweight stuff and my strength exploded, I drank the weights kool aid too long.

1) there is photo evidence online of Mayweather doing weights, he is full of ****

2)bodyweight exercise IS doing weights ffs

3)once you get stronger you will need more weight to stimulate a strength increase, this is why bodyweight exercise is ineffective at anything other than building endurance after a certain point.

4)please present evidence to your assertions that weights damage your body or kindly STFU

[chessplayer163]

1) there is photo evidence online of Mayweather doing weights, he is full of ****

2)bodyweight exercise IS doing weights ffs

3)once you get stronger you will need more weight to stimulate a strength increase, this is why bodyweight exercise is ineffective at anything other than building endurance after a certain point.

4)please present evidence to your assertions that weights damage your body or kindly STFU

lifting injuries
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSJCDcAKShA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK4L8Nk2ZpA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3poAx...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otqbG...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYklb...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYklb...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI0Zl-tMRf4
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Lifting weights and INJURIES

http://www.straighttothebar.com/2006..._injuries.html

http://www.exercisegoals.com/weight-...-injuries.html

http://www.powerliftingwatch.com/node/3257 2.6 injuries per 1000 hrs of lifting

Destroys your joints http://www.swis.ca/index.php?option=...1&limitstart=0

Wrecks your shoulder http://www.protraineronline.com/past...3/shoulder.cfm

Lifting cause pain and injuries in lower back, kness, shoulders elbows.
http://www.eric.ed.gov/ERICWebPortal...accno=EJ585731

Study in the number of lifting injuries in adolescents http://pediatrics.aappublications.or...tract/72/5/636

How the big lifts deadlift, squat, bench, cause injuries http://www.powerhousegym.co.nz/artic...l_injuries.pdf
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[TheNegation]

well first off the heavy lifting has to go....heavy lifting is what gains size

Wrong.

Lifting heavy weight is what makes you strong, eating a lot is what makes you big.

And just to go over some other bull**** that is being posted in here....

-Rep Ranges are overrated

-Chessplayer, stop being a faggot and posting videos of individuals using ****ty form along with obscene amounts of weight to try and prove your point. Anyone who uses ****ty form and too much weight is going to suffer injuries. Go suck Mayweather's dick somewhere else.

-Bodyweight Exercises do have a place in everybody's routine whether you are a boxer or not. Weights don't, although they DO help.

-People in here seem to think that lifting light weights for endless reps will work "Fast Twitch Muscle Fibers" when in fact it's the exact opposite.

-The truth is there is no one true method for Strength Training for boxing or any sport simply because no one routine works for everyone.

-If you want my opinion as far as lifting routines for boxing, I'd go with O-Lifting (Power Cleans, Jump Squats, Snatches, Hang Cleans) + Calisthenics.

[chessplayer163]

Wrong.

Lifting heavy weight is what makes you strong, eating a lot is what makes you big.

And just to go over some other bull**** that is being posted in here....

-Rep Ranges are overrated

-Chessplayer, stop being a faggot and posting videos of individuals using ****ty form along with obscene amounts of weight to try and prove your point. Anyone who uses ****ty form and too much weight is going to suffer injuries. Go suck Mayweather's dick somewhere else.

-Bodyweight Exercises do have a place in everybody's routine whether you are a boxer or not. Weights don't, although they DO help.

-People in here seem to think that lifting light weights for endless reps will work "Fast Twitch Muscle Fibers" when in fact it's the exact opposite.

-The truth is there is no one true method for Strength Training for boxing or any sport simply because no one routine works for everyone.

-If you want my opinion as far as lifting routines for boxing, I'd go with O-Lifting (Power Cleans, Jump Squats, Snatches, Hang Cleans) + Calisthenics.

Ground n pound you need to stop projecting about the **** stuff. Use some intelligence.

Those are OLYMPIC lifters getting injured.

Your views are 80's old school Bigger, Faster, Stronger junk.

Ball sport training is completely different than combat sports.

[TheNegation]

Ground n pound you need to stop projecting about the **** stuff. Use some intelligence.

Me? Use intelligence? Ha

Says the guy who is too stupid to understand what he is posting and just does google searches to prove his point.

Those are OLYMPIC lifters getting injured.

Using too much weight. No boxer is going to be deadlifting 800lbs, or benching 405, or Clean and Jerking 300lbs.

The reports you are showing are of individuals involved in powerlifting which has always been plagued with injuries because of the weight involved. More weight causes more flaws in form and that causes injuries, not the lift itself.

Your views are 80's old school Bigger, Faster, Stronger junk.

And your views are circa the stone age. You know times change and methods advance. What I'm saying is proven and is used by thousands of athletes today.

Ball sport training is completely different than combat sports.

I never said it wasn't and I'm completely aware it is. If you mean to tell me that Combat Athletes don't do O-Lifts, you're an idiot.