Wow, I didnt realize there so many benifets to lifting weights........

[old cat]

is that why squats and lunges are usually the norm for most boxers most of which heavyweights

Mike Tyson had an extensive weight training regime, which he did A LOT of squats. He was also the epitome of power with speed.


a squat will strengthen your legs so that when your skinny ass gets tapped on the jaw your legs wont get wobbly.

Squats are harnessed by all athletes including endurance athletes.

here at Miss. St. i see the track athletes in the gym doing leg workouts including squats. I dont think their very seasoned coach would allow this unless it helped.

WEIGHT TRAINING DOES NOT EQUAL MASS

STRENGTH DOES NOT EQUAL MASS

WEIGHT TRAINING=STRENGTH THATS IT!!!

just because most of the gym **** you see around are big lumbering dumbasses doesnt mean **** for an opinion because more than half the people who weight train dont know **** or how to do it right.


i have a weekly regime i change up every 2 weeks to keep balanced.

i havnt changed weight in 2 or 3 years and my reps and power have increased steadily.

My forty times have increased on top of my endurance.

Im not a boxer(no boxing gym near by) but i use alot of boxing training. when i first started doing intervals i could only last like 5 rounds shadowboxing. With correct weight training i now shadow box for 12 rounds. On top of that through EXPLOSIVE workouts i have increased my hand speed dramatically.

I also do alot of calisthenics but with the proper weight training also

This is a bad example. The pre-penitentiary Tyson did not lift weights like this. We all know the difference between the two versions. One used fantastic movement to get inside the other walked forward like a thug.

[EzzardFan]

Over the past 19 years I've been through phases of calisthenics only, weights only, and mixing both together. For me personally there are zero advantageous to doing weights. In fact I had to quit weights 2 years ago aged 37 because they were contributing to age related wear and tear injuries. At that point through necessity I went calisthenic only, and within a few months of this I honestly wish I'd never touched weights in the first place. Never thought I'd feel like that because weights were a big art of my life.

Now I'm 39. My workouts take less time and work me much harder. I look in better shape, feel in better shape, have much better stamina, hardly ever get injured, my injuries heal faster, and my boxing has come on leaps and bounds.

This may not be the case for everyone, but there is a way to find out what works best for you. During periods when I only did weights I did them explosively (best for boxing), working pyramids of 20, 16, 12, 8, 4, 2, and 1 reps. My bench press 1 rep max at the end of the pyramid was 220lbs (I was just under 200lbs at the time). My shoulder press 1 rep max was 130lbs. Now I thought that I was pretty strong for a man of my age/size yet I could only crank out 25 flat knuckle pushups, and a mere 3 handstand pushups. Switching to a calisthenic routine and 2 years later I can go a set of 80 flat knuckle pushups and my handstand pushup record now stands at 36 but I'm now down to a stable 175lbs!

What does this prove? Well in my mind the calisthenics involve more of the body and lend themselves better to real world activities like boxing. I don't see the point in benching 220 if I can only crank out a measly 25 pushups. And what's more impressive, hoisting 130lbs overhead or pushing up from a handstand 30+ times?

Who knows what I can bench now... but I can certainly get more weight behind my punches, snap them out faster, and hit the focus mit an awful lot harder.

Might not be the same for everyone though. Each to their own.

[Danny Gunz]

If you started boxing and when you started you did not include weight lifting into your training for the first year, then the next year you added weight lifting in you would be amazed about how much it helps. The differences are seriously astronomical.

You dont get really big with all muscles from weight lifting. You get really big with all muscles when you weightlift and eat alot of food and protein.

[TheNegation]

http://www.halhigdon.com/marathon/ad.../advanced1.htm

i dont really see anything about squats.

http://www.halhigdon.com/ultramarathon/schedule.html

nothing here either. what going on these are 2 highly advanced training routines used by endurance athletes and nothing about weights let alone squats.

I don't see how you can pick two links for Marathon Runners and use that as your sticking point, and be serious about it. Tons of athletes do squats.

-Usain Bolt does heavy squats

-Michael Vick (a very explosive QB in his prime did Squats)

-Miles Austin a beast of a Wide Receiver does heavy squats

-Brian Cushing does Heavy Squats and he did the 3 cone drill at the combine faster than half of the wide recivers and has a higher vertical jump than most of them as well.

-Mike Tyson did Squats

-I'm sure there are plenty of boxers who do them as well.


-Crossfitters, some of the fittest people in the world do squats

and an I'll leave this with a quote from one of the best strength coaches around today

"There is simply no other exercise, and certainly no machine, that produces the level of central nervous system activity, improved balance and coordination, skeletal loading and bone density enhancement, muscular stimulation and growth, connective tissue stress and strength, psychological demand and toughness, and overall systemic conditioning than the correctly performed full squat" - Mark Rippetoe

Says the 21 year old KID. LOL

...And???

I don't know if anybody knows but there are better ways to train nowadays, we don't have to train like rocky anymore.

[Spartacus Sully]

I don't see how you can pick two links for Marathon Runners and use that as your sticking point, and be serious about it. Tons of athletes do squats.

-Usain Bolt does heavy squats

-Michael Vick (a very explosive QB in his prime did Squats)

-Miles Austin a beast of a Wide Receiver does heavy squats

-Brian Cushing does Heavy Squats and he did the 3 cone drill at the combine faster than half of the wide recivers and has a higher vertical jump than most of them as well.


-Crossfitters, some of the fittest people in the world do squats

and an I'll leave this with a quote from one of the best strength coaches around today






...And???

I don't know if anybody knows but there are better ways to train nowadays, we don't have to train like rocky anymore.

the 2 marathon runner links were in regards to the the endurance athelets comment. not football players. sprinters, and im not quite sure what cross fitters are.

[TheNegation]

the 2 marathon runner links were in regards to the the endurance athelets comment. not football players. sprinters, and im not quite sure what cross fitters are.

You don't think Squats can build endurance?

[Spartacus Sully]

You don't think Squats can build endurance?

not when the goal is to keep the sets and reps low and the weights high if you start off at 5 sets of 3 and build up to 5 sets of 15 over a few weeks that would be diffrent.

i would recommend jump squats to any one training.

[TheNegation]

not when the goal is to keep the sets and reps low and the weights high if you start off at 5 sets of 3 and build up to 5 sets of 15 over a few weeks that would be diffrent.

i would recommend jump squats to any one training.

Well in that case I agree. I also have had good succes with Jump Squats as well. Helped a good deal with my vert and box jump

[Phenomkidd]

weight lifting will keep building you up
you'll easily find your natural body weight through calisthenics

and doin squats with weights doesn't help for boxing, i'd understand if your a rugby player or somethin, add some resistance to yoru shoulders as you push a tire, yea, it'll get you ready to keep moving when there is huge amounts of pressure on you pushing you the other way

when is a boxer gonna need that?
and doin squats with weights defienetly does not help your leaping capabilities as broly puts it, actualy practicing leaping(calisthenics) will help you with your leaping/lunges....whtever you wanna call it man

I don't wanna hear bs about natural weight. People say such and such is a natural weight, they only base it on performance at a level.

Also pre-pen Tyson lifted weights, there is evidence he lifted during his stay at the all boys school/boarding school/juvie he attended, making bets with staff about how much he could bench.

[SplitSecond]

I don't wanna hear bs about natural weight. People say such and such is a natural weight, they only base it on performance at a level.

Also pre-pen Tyson lifted weights, there is evidence he lifted during his stay at the all boys school/boarding school/juvie he attended, making bets with staff about how much he could bench.

holy****, obviously, that's the whole point, a weight class where you can perform to the best of your abilities

and tyson lifted in school? did he lift during boxing training, BEFORE prison?