Weights, strength excercises and boxing

[XionComrade]

Mike Tyson, George Foreman, and Rocky Marciano could all squat over 900. Tyson could bench press 500. Of course you don't want to look like Schwarzenegger to have speed and power, but there's ways to lift weights and ways not to.

Holy Cow Man, thats insane!
Where did you here that, Geez man!

Theirs 400lb men that work since age 12 and never reach those heights! Steroids or not!

How much did George benchpress?

Could you immagine seeing someone Rocky's size squating that much? Its like car sized weight!

[Mick Hucknall]

Yeh but the Rock was a freak of nature.

[XionComrade]

Their all 3 freeks of nature!!!!

I wonder how much Earnie Shavers Squated and Benched, seeing as how he hit harder than Tyson and Foreman, and probably The Rock also!

[Pugnacious_Z]

wats benching got to do with punching? and i bet u dat foreman, rocky and shavers cudnt bench over 300lbs, not coz theyre weak, but becoz they didnt lift weights alot. its impossible to bench 300lb + without ever lifting weights. rocky marciano cud prob only bench 200 pounds, maybe a bit more, and about their squats, it wudnt be too muhc, prob like 300lbs. and tyson wud bench alot coz i know dat he started heavy weights in the later parts of his career

[random guy]

wats benching got to do with punching? and i bet u dat foreman, rocky and shavers cudnt bench over 300lbs, not coz theyre weak, but becoz they didnt lift weights alot. its impossible to bench 300lb + without ever lifting weights. rocky marciano cud prob only bench 200 pounds, maybe a bit more, and about their squats, it wudnt be too muhc, prob like 300lbs. and tyson wud bench alot coz i know dat he started heavy weights in the later parts of his career

um no my uncle steve can bench 350 and he never lifted weights, the only reason I know he can bench that much is because I bet him 20 bucks he couldnt do it.

[TRUEVisionDC]

I was reading the thread about Muscles how people were sayin weight lifting is bad for boxing

I agree and Disagree

There are lot of people who do the basic excercises

Curls, bench press, etc...

Those are crap for boxing, if you wanna be a weight room stud, then go right ahead...

What are some real good excercises that will strengthen u without gettin u big for boxing are: Power Cleans, Dumbell snatches/swings, twisting snatch, and step ups...These are full body movements that are great for punching power and don't get u big but powerful

forget the curls, forget the flies, forget the bench press, forget the squats, forget the lat pulldowns, forget the leg press, forget all that crap...

Do full body movements, and don't do it slow, do it EXPLOSIVELY!!
Activate that fast twitch fiber, and dont do those excercises more then 1-2 times a week

Also inclined pushups, handstand pushups, chinups/pullups, bodyweight squats, etc. Which are all GREAT for strength and endurance...

One thing that is great for speed and power..........PLYOMETRICS!
Make sure you got a strength foundation before doing plyometrics,
when u perform plyometrics, perform it at high speeed and not to failure, and it well definately increase ur speed and power..
Some examples of plyometrics are: Clap pushups, squat jumps, Medicine ball throws which I believe are the BEST because u can mimic the punches thrown with it(has increased my power A LOT!), lateral jumps, tuck jumps, etc. and last but not least CHOPPING WOOD (or hitting a old crap tire with a sledge hammer which is great for strength, explosiveness, and endurance and very old school )


Remember though Sparring is most important, then boxing training(mitts, heavy bag, shadowbox), then strength and conditioning..


BTW heavy bag is one of the best tools for power

Punching power comes from: technique, accuracy, timing, balance, then power...power don't mean **** if u cant land one shot.....

Remember endurance is more important then power
If you only got power u may throw some hard punches in the first round only, but if u got endurance, u can throw hard punches for 12 rounds!!!!!!!(or whatever rounds u fight)

Keep sparring, train hard, and good luck in the future, watch out for me though!!!!!

From someone who used to train with boxers (just for the workout). This is an excellent post.

[tebe6sm]

hey ThaGreatest, just wondering but have you by chance bought a training book from ross enamait? That stuff seems to be almost all the exact stuff in one of his books (especially the sledge and a tire). And I do agree with what you said. However, bench press and crap can be used to benefit a boxer, especially when done in complex training. Once building a sufficient strength base, do a set of bench press then immediately follow up with a set of plyometrics (in the bench press case plyo pushups).

[XionComrade]

wats benching got to do with punching? and i bet u dat foreman, rocky and shavers cudnt bench over 300lbs, not coz theyre weak, but becoz they didnt lift weights alot. its impossible to bench 300lb + without ever lifting weights. rocky marciano cud prob only bench 200 pounds, maybe a bit more, and about their squats, it wudnt be too muhc, prob like 300lbs. and tyson wud bench alot coz i know dat he started heavy weights in the later parts of his career

Wtf? He just said, they could each squat over 900!

Your right, bench can only take you so far, which isnt far at all! I was just wanting to know what kind of freak they were! Typically if you can bench twice your own weight without enhancers or any ****** ****, your a natural freak, and your gonna be a KO artist, most natural freeks are...with proper training that is!

Bench 300lbs? Any of these men? No way! I would say that Big Ol' George could do 700 lbs, and the Rock probably not real far off!
They probably benched 300lbs the first time they lifted ever, Genetic freeks, its pure natural power! They probably squated 300-400 first time too!

Their is no substitue for Natural Power! Foreman probably lifted more than Foreman, And IMO Foreman is much stronger.

What about David Tua? Hes a big Ol' boy ain't he!

[tebe6sm]

Their is no substitue for Natural Power! Foreman probably lifted more than Foreman, And IMO Foreman is much stronger.

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[random guy]

ueah I want to know about tua too he is a big dude