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  • #51
    ThaGreatest, you are right. I see you answered my question. Those excercises build explosiveness and power through a large motion range. That type of lifting and pylometrics are what boxers should do about 4 times a month to supplement workouts. Guys stick to the medicine ball workouts everyday because they build more strength and better muscle for boxers than "traditional weightlifting."
    You want functional muscle and power and the medicin ball workouts are great for those. They were later included in pylometrics for a reason.

    PunchDrunk is right. Focus on strength alone is wrong way to go. I knew a competition level powerlifter and everything punchdrunk said is 100% correct about what they do. His focus was, single rep 700-800 squat and single rep 500-600 bench. He still was a decent MMA fighter. Wrong way for boxers though.

    Look at Trinidad, hardly any muscle and I will say it, one of the the most feared KO artist in the last 10 years and maybe in the history of boxing at his weight. Does he looks like he lifts any weights? Power punching requires speed, accurracy, timing, proper leverage, and power. Not muscle.

    Look at a football player like LT on the Chargers. That is the best running back in the NFL. That guys works his ass off but he is definitely not ripped up and he's a football player... This guys does lift weights but 2-3 days a week that is limited and with strict supervision. He does more focus on pylometric and core building workouts for injury prevention and balance and explosiveness and agility. Lineman and linebackers in the NFL need power and do the power lifts but they focus more towards high reps. 25x 250- 300 bench press

    Maurice Greene olympic sprinter does lift weights 2x a week but for high reps and doesn't use weights more than 35 lbs and only about an 1 -1 1/2 hr long.

    Weights do help but you have to consider what you are doing when lifting weights. Injury prevention, range of power, range of motion, agility, flexibility, overdevelopment, under development, isolated movements, compound movements, and how to correctly lift weights as well and their target groups.

    I doubt Cus would let Tyson bench anything at 500. If Tyson benched that much he learned it in jail.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by ricecrispi
      One final note.

      Boxers prority number one is boxing skills. Punching power does little good with no boxing skills. You have to hit they guy first or avoid getting hit by him. #2 is stamina and lasting how many rounds you are fighting for. Boxers need that explosivness and power but that **** goes out the window if you gas out and can even keep your arms up to defend yourself.
      900 squat is bull****, that is world record level lift in the 70-80's and Pro Competition level today.

      B-rine I like you, this guys knows his **** and is 100% right. I would love to have this guy as my trainer.....
      The problem B-rine is you promoting something most the poster can't even comprehend and go out and injure themselves or overdevelop certain muscle groups after reading what you post.
      Lifting weights is good if you have a trainer like B-rine to supervise and tell you how many reps, what excercise to do, how much weight etc. I can tell you most boxers are from a poorer demographic and can't afford your services.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by ricecrispi
        900 squat is bull****, that is world record level lift in the 70-80's and Pro Competition level today.

        B-rine I like you, this guys knows his **** and is 100% right. I would love to have this guy as my trainer.....
        The problem B-rine is you promoting something most the poster can't even comprehend and go out and injure themselves or overdevelop certain muscle groups after reading what you post.
        Lifting weights is good if you have a trainer like B-rine to supervise and tell you how many reps, what excercise to do, how much weight etc. I can tell you most boxers are from a poorer demographic and can't afford your services.
        The record is 1200lbs, it isn't 900. I saw several *Cough*Juicers*Cough* on the strongman show that could squat 900+ and about all of em could bench 600+

        Yeah Rine Deffinently knows his ****!

        Im thinking of a new routine that has pyrometrics in it...

        Monday-PowerClings 3 of 12
        Deadlift 3 of 12
        Pushjerk 3 of 12

        Wednsday-BackSquats 2 or 3 of 50
        Calfraises 3 of 50
        FrontSquats 3 of 12

        Friday- Same as Monday technically

        Every day but one i do 1000pushups, and as many pullups as possible, varrying the hand placement. And some Abs, just not tooo much...lol

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        • #54
          [QUOTE=XionComrade]The record is 1200lbs, it isn't 900. I saw several *Cough*Juicers*Cough* on the strongman show that could squat 900+ and about all of em could bench 600+

          /QUOTE]

          These guys also wieght like 250-300 lbs. I also said in 70-80's those were record numbers. 1050 lb record squat 2-3 years ago to give you an idea.

          I think the American's records at 220-250 lb class bench is like 500-600's and squat is 600-750's. Again the numbers are pulled out off the ass hairs.

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          • #55
            How did this thread go to a bunch of bogus bull****?

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