A Great Healthy Shake For Those In Training....

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Did you read the label on that protein?

Artificial flavors and sucralose. Count me out.

Sucralose is a chlorinated sugar molecule, which means it's made the same way as most pesticides. It is, essentially, a pesticide; it's just so sweet (600 times sweeter than sugar) that you don't need to consume very much of it at a time.

Sucralose has been linked to kidney and liver problems and an increased risk of seizures, including seizures from head trauma. This especially sucks for a boxer, because damned near EVERY meal replacement powder and protein out there has sucralose in it, and we take a lot of blows to the head and body.

source??

Some concern has been raised about the effect of sucralose on the thymus. A report from the Australian National Industrial Chemicals Notification and Assessment Scheme (NICNAS) cites two studies on ****, both of which found "a significant decrease in mean thymus weight" at high doses.[16] The sucralose dose which caused the effects was 3000 mg/kg/day for 28 days. For a 150 lb (68.2 kg) human, this would mean an intake of nearly 205 grams of sucralose a day, which is equivalent to more than 17,200 individual Splenda packets/day for approximately one month. The dose required to provoke any immunological response was 750 mg/kg/day,[17] or 51 grams of sucralose per day, which is nearly 4,300 Splenda packets/day. After evaluation of these data and other toxicological findings, the NICNAS report concluded that sucralose does not pose a hazard to public health.

http://www.nicnas.gov.au/publication...FR/NA944FR.pdf

The Sucralose molecule contains chlorine. A popular claim by organisms such as the food industry-backed IFIC [21] is that food products such as table salt also contain chlorine. This is misleading, since the chemistry and health effects of inorganic chlorine salts is very different from that of organic chlorinated compounds, or organochlorides.

Sucralose belongs to a class of compounds known as organochlorides (or chlorocarbons). Some organochlorides, particularly those that accumulate in fatty tissues, are toxic to plants or animals, including humans. Sucralose, however, is not known to be toxic in small quan****** and is extremely insoluble in fat; it cannot accumulate in fat like chlorinated hydrocarbons. In addition, sucralose does not break down or dechlorinate

"Daniel JW, Renwick AG, Roberts A, Sims J. The metabolic fate of sucralose in ****. Food Chem Tox. 2000;38(S2): S115-S121."

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sucrose (table sugar)



sucralose

[Trrmo]

sucrose (table sugar)



sucralose

Ahh, that explains it clearly.

[TheNegation]

sucrose (table sugar)



sucralose

Yeah ummm not all of us are Patrick Arnold's.

Point remains that there are either inconclusive studies to prove the harms of these kinds of things, or you'd literally have to take a ****-ton of this stuff for it to be even remotely harmful.

Damn Hippies are feeding some of you guys false info.

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Yeah ummm not all of us are Patrick Arnold's.

Point remains that there are either inconclusive studies to prove the harms of these kinds of things, or you'd literally have to take a ****-ton of this stuff for it to be even remotely harmful.

Damn Hippies are feeding some of you guys false info.

yeah, that was the point of my post BEFORE the images.... i put actual facts out there, unlike the guy who posted second just blabbering

[Hitman932]

yeah, that was the point of my post BEFORE the images.... i put actual facts out there, unlike the guy who posted second just blabbering

It also means there is nothing wrong with the original shake I posted.


Take it 3 times in a day and you can pack 220g of Protein into a 1500 calorie diet. (hypothetically speaking, obviously you want to eat natural foods as well)


I have looked at many different proteins, milk products etc and I cannot come up with a combination that has a better ratio of High Protein-Low Carb/Calorie.