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  • #11
    Originally posted by Blond Beast View Post

    Right. I think it is so admirable when I see a 300lb person “jogging”, but it’s also so frustrating to see. You are trashing your joints, feet, spine, at that weight on the road. You are burning very little calories for your effort. Cardio is not an efficient way to lose weight. People can look it up. See how far you have to run to burn off a piece of cheesecake. Now yes there are benefits. But you need to reign in the calories and obese people will drop weight fast. Get that under control, let your weight come down then maybe you can think about doing an impactful cardio like running. Boxing is great, just hitting the bag will be a great workout. Just wrap your wrists so you don’t sprain them and put some effort into your punches. Get out some aggression. It sucks cause the line between motivating and shaming someone can get you cancelled these days. Regardless of your intention. I know a lot of people that were obese and said that “fat shame” actually motivated them, they hated saying it but it was true. But there needs to be a positivity to everything in the end. Education is at the core.
    No doubt. Eating right is so much more effective for weight loss & getting healthier than working out. The working out stuff is overrated as all hell for weight loss if you ask me. That said I think working out can help with mental health in general, which everyone probably could use, & motivation towards eating right. I think thats part of the issue with all these fat people. All these fat people think you gotta train like 4 times a week or some sh^t when 90% of the work involves portion control & eating more mindfully. And hell you don't even gotta worry too much about portion control if you are eating mindfully. I mean how much broccoli do you need to eat to gain 5lbs? Hell I think all that fiber still might equal a net negative for you it just might take a day or two to work itself out...quite literally.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Blond Beast View Post

      Right. I think it is so admirable when I see a 300lb person “jogging”, but it’s also so frustrating to see. You are trashing your joints, feet, spine, at that weight on the road. You are burning very little calories for your effort. Cardio is not an efficient way to lose weight. People can look it up. See how far you have to run to burn off a piece of cheesecake. Now yes there are benefits. But you need to reign in the calories and obese people will drop weight fast. Get that under control, let your weight come down then maybe you can think about doing an impactful cardio like running. Boxing is great, just hitting the bag will be a great workout. Just wrap your wrists so you don’t sprain them and put some effort into your punches. Get out some aggression. It sucks cause the line between motivating and shaming someone can get you cancelled these days. Regardless of your intention. I know a lot of people that were obese and said that “fat shame” actually motivated them, they hated saying it but it was true. But there needs to be a positivity to everything in the end. Education is at the core.
      You cant out run a sh.tty diet.

      Only way to lose weight successfully is to get control of your diet. Calories in calories out.

      The problem is see 99% of the time is ..... "eduction" you said it, it just people dont know how calories in calories work, I get some cilents who come in and say something like ive been eating very low fat but im still not losing weight. General public have no clue about nutrition.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by TheBoxGod View Post

        You cant out run a sh.tty diet.

        Only way to lose weight successfully is to get control of your diet. Calories in calories out.

        The problem is see 99% of the time is ..... "eduction" you said it, it just people dont know how calories in calories work, I get some cilents who come in and say something like ive been eating very low fat but im still not losing weight. General public have no clue about nutrition.
        Preach on brother.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by OctoberRed View Post
          Calories will be labelled on menus and food labels in out-of-home food businesses from April 2022, the government has announced.

          Regulations will be laid in parliament tomorrow that will require large businesses with 250 or more employees in England, including cafes, restaurants and takeaways, to display the calorie information of non-prepacked food and soft drink items that are prepared for customers.

          Calorie information will need to be displayed at the point of choice for the customer, such as physical menus, online menus, food delivery platforms and food labels.

          The measures, which form part of the government’s wider strategy to tackle obesity, will help to ensure people are able to make more informed, healthier choices when it comes to eating food out or ordering takeaways.

          The COVID-19 pandemic has highlighted the impact that obesity can have on people’s health and health outcomes.

          It is estimated that overweight and obesity related conditions across the UK cost the NHS £6.1 billion each year. Almost two-thirds (63%) of adults in England are overweight or living with obesity – and 1 in 3 children leave primary school overweight or obese.

          Public Health Minister, Jo Churchill, said:

          Our aim is to make it as easy as possible for people to make healthier food choices for themselves and their families, both in restaurants and at home. That is why we want to make sure everyone has access to accurate information about the food and drink we order.

          These measures form an important building block in our strategy to support and encourage people in achieving and maintaining a healthier weight.

          By only requiring large businesses to label calories on menus, it will not impact small, independent businesses and will ensure those who might find the requirement more difficult are not impacted. The government will work with the food and drink sector and local authorities to ensure the regulations are implemented smoothly.

          In July 2020, the government published its consultation response on introducing mandatory calorie labelling in the out-of-home sector. The response supported out of home calorie labelling and the government confirmed it will legislate this as part of its strategy to empower people to lead healthier lives, with these regulations now being laid.

          In a Public Health England survey on calorie reduction, 79% of respondents said they think that menus should include the number of calories in food and drinks.

          The recently announced Office for Health Promotion will lead national efforts to improve and level up the health of the nation by tackling obesity, improving mental health and promoting physical activity.
          This is a great move by the UK. Here in the US, fast food joints have been displaying calorie content for quite some time now. Look at us! We Americans are known the world over for our svelte physiques.

          Seriously, this is kind of pointless. People who eat fast food fall into a couple of categories. On one hand you have people like me who eat it very sparingly (less than once a month probably) and therefore the calorie count doesn't really matter. It is one bad meal in an otherwise healthy lifestyle --- no harm done. On the other hand, you have the group who eats it all the time and doesn't give a wit what is in their food. If they cared they wouldn't be eating McDonald's several times a week. Those people are still going to consume crap.
          Maybe, possibly, there are few people out there who eat it somewhat often and will be shocked to see how bad the stuff is for them. It hasn't worked here, but Americans and Brits and very different peoples. Who knows?
          Last edited by Quercusalba; 05-29-2021, 08:36 AM.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Quercusalba View Post

            This is a great move by the UK. Here in the US, fast food joints have been displaying calorie content for quite some time now. Look at us! We Americans are known the world over for our svelte physiques.

            Seriously, this is kind of pointless. People who eat fast food fall into a couple of categories. On one hand you have people like me who eat it very sparingly (less than once a month probably) and therefore the calorie count doesn't really matter. It is one bad meal in an otherwise healthy lifestyle --- no harm done. On the other hand, you have the group who eats it all the time and doesn't give a wit what is in their food. If they cared they wouldn't be eating McDonald's several times a week. Those people are still going to consume crap.
            Maybe, possibly, there are few people out there who eat it somewhat often and will be shocked to see how bad the stuff is for them. It hasn't worked here, but Americans and Brits and very different peoples. Who knows?
            Hopefully it doesn't run Nandos

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
              Eh. Idk that telling folks what they are eating is bad is gonna make folks wanna eat it less. I think you need a fat tax. Healthier food needs to be tax free or a min tax. Sh^t food needs to be highly taxed just like cigs or other unhealthy or of questionable moral type things. Ultimately we are all paying for all these unhealthy fat mfers when they develop health problems from eating all this sh^t. So at least taxing unhealthy foods more insures there is more money to take care of these people as they get sick. Or it could encourage some of them to eat healthier since it would help their bank account. But fooking telling folks a plate of nachos soaked in cheese is 1,200 calories ain't gonna do a fooking thing.
              i agree healthier food should be taxed less but upping the tax on certain foods is something else. who decides what is unhealthy? also taxing unhealthy food punishes people who work out and take the food as a reward. people should be allowed to eat what they want but if they get any complications they can pay them from their own wallet. you make your bed, you sleep in it

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              • #17
                Originally posted by smash_and_cash View Post

                i agree healthier food should be taxed less but upping the tax on certain foods is something else. who decides what is unhealthy?
                I think a lot of it is obvious. Pepsi. Snack cakes. Ice Cream. Hell I think you could go largely towards taxing processed food, but I think the main process on deciding this should be made of some sorta council who's goal it is to decide on the specific things.

                also taxing unhealthy food punishes people who work out and take the food as a reward. people should be allowed to eat what they want but if they get any complications they can pay them from their own wallet. you make your bed, you sleep in it
                Some folks like to reward themselves by smoking a cig or using edibles. Those things get taxed extra. Why not food if we are taxing cigs & weed?

                And the reality is it doesn't just punish the guy who eats hohos & drinks Pepsi for breakfast. All these unhealthy mfers sometimes don't even have health insurance so when things go south the bill gets pushed onto taxpayers & even when they do have insurance they are helping push up rates for the rest of us who are taking care of our health cuz ultimately the rest of us our paying for their bills so the insurance company can make money.

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