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  • #21
    Stop bringing MMA into this. It amazes me how people bring MMA into such matters for no reason. Bench/push also works triceps.

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    • #22
      Weightlifting CAN be beneficial. You have to do the right kind of lifting. You don't want to take on a bodybuilder's routine that's going to results in hypertrophy which can slow you down. Including heavy, low rep (say 3-5) lifts that help build pure strength and explosiveness once are twice a week is a great addition to a program. You also want to include high rep exercises that help with muscle endurance. In other words, create a diverse program that focuses on all types of strengths.

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      • #23
        I only bring up mma because its a diffrent sport and when doing sport specific training what works in one sport dosent work or work as well in the next and if your training for mma and wrestling people there are alot of diffrent things that can be helpful depending on your style. grappling people uses your chest alot more then in boxing so of course you would want to work your chest.

        Boxing is not mma and unless you want to be supper good in the clinches theres no need to have a large chest. there's really not even a need to have a chest at all other then for taking hits, but if you work the intercostals with things like back bends and pull overs you you shouldnt even have a problem with that.

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        • #24
          OK but noone was talking about using MMA training or even said MMA, and thats the reason you brought it up, stop lying. I just checked another post you made in a different thread, stop trying to kid people.

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          • #25
            so what am i supposed to say?

            Biggest training/conditioning myth:

            Pull ups and bench pressing should be a staple part of boxing training.

            False:

            Bench pressing and doing push ups have little value in the sport of boxing. there are much better alternatives that do not put as much emphasis on the chest muscles.

            benching and push ups may have advantages in other sports where pushing and pulling is more prevelant. maybe in something like tug o war.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Ylem122 View Post
              so what am i supposed to say?

              Biggest training/conditioning myth:

              Pull ups and bench pressing should be a staple part of boxing training.

              False:

              Bench pressing and doing push ups have little value in the sport of boxing. there are much better alternatives that do not put as much emphasis on the chest muscles.

              benching and push ups may have advantages in other sports where pushing and pulling is more prevelant. maybe in something like tug o war.
              I couldnt disagree with you more about the push ups. As a matter of fact I believe it to be one of the dumbest things ever said in the Training forum..................Rockin'

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              • #27
                Lol the point is you like to demean MMA when you get the chance.

                Biggest training/conditioning myth:

                Pull ups and bench pressing should be a staple part of boxing training.

                False:

                Bench pressing and doing push ups have little value in the sport of boxing. there are much better alternatives that do not put as much emphasis on the chest muscles.

                benching and push ups may have advantages in other sports where pushing and pulling is more prevelant.

                /end
                Or you could even add MMA, but the reason is not just for comparison which is why it annoys me.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Rockin' View Post
                  I couldnt disagree with you more about the push ups. As a matter of fact I believe it to be one of the dumbest things ever said in the Training forum..................Rockin'
                  Yeah yeah push ups are good but there are better options that dont work your chest as much. on the up side they work your triceps shoulders serratus anterior intercostals pec minor and major and even the back. its hard to find a single exercise that does all that especially one that can be done with loads of variations. though I can think of many diffrent exercies that work the important parts much better and leave out whats not necessiary and i would rather do those exercises then just doing push ups.

                  as far as demeaning mma:

                  "There is so much ignorance in this section it's unbelievable."

                  i was just letting that guy know that the guy who make the stick comment probaly came from a sport where they like their middle weights 25 lbs heavier then boxing middle weights.

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                  • #29
                    yeah, yeah push ups are great for fighters...................Rockin'

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Ylem122 View Post
                      Yeah yeah push ups are good but there are better options that dont work your chest as much. on the up side they work your triceps shoulders serratus anterior intercostals pec minor and major and even the back. its hard to find a single exercise that does all that especially one that can be done with loads of variations. though I can think of many diffrent exercies that work the important parts much better and leave out whats not necessiary and i would rather do those exercises then just doing push ups.

                      as far as demeaning mma:

                      "There is so much ignorance in this section it's unbelievable."

                      i was just letting that guy know that the guy who make the stick comment probaly came from a sport where they like their middle weights 25 lbs heavier then boxing middle weights.
                      Post your routine and tell us what works for your boxing training. IMHO, pushups are a great exercise, they build your chest and shoulders and they're no impact.

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