Biggest Training/Conditioning myths

[TheNegation]

The more time you spend in the weight room, the better the results. Getting Abs requires ridiculous abdominal routines.

[sukhenkoy]

that aint true that weight lifting slows you down.
Thats crap.

Why 100 meter runners lift weight?

TYSON lift weight 24/7 and he was always damn fast.

FLOYD MAYWEATHER,ROY JONES, and other fast guys lift weights.

You need to lift weights if you want to do sports proffesionally.

There is no other way around.

You don't NEED to lift weights if you want to do sports professionally, although it can help/hinder your results based on how you lift.

[Phenomkidd]

There are few sports where lifting will not help you. Lifting can aid ping pong players, nascar drivers, jump ropers, etc.

[The Future]

You go to a gym and 90% of what people are doing is wasted motion, ****ty form too fast to actually work their muscles, the reason you go slow is so your body does the work not inertia. If you go fast you put a lot into that burst but not into the rest that's why you resist on the way down.
The problem with just body weight exercises is that they're still a form of weight lifting.
And it's not like if you go to the gym today to try to add some strength or endurance you'll walk out in 3 weeks muscle bound and slow. This is a problem you're going to see coming and can adjust your exercise. The only real downside to weight training is it can make you a bit stiff on your straight punches, but a good trainer can work that out of you in one session.

its just about lifting weights the right way. and most people don't. most people weight lift like they are body builders. ever watch Roy Jones documentary with mackie shilstone? the way he prepares Roy to move up in weight for the Ruiz fight. its not a typical weight lifting routine. its a higher pace strength and conditioning program with a lot of core workouts.
weightlifting is bad for boxers who dont know how to properly weight train.

[Chr0nic]

Okay guys what are the most prevalent/annoying myths about training and conditioning you've heard.

The one that bugs me the most is that weight lifting will make you (instantly) muscle bound and slow, but if you use body weight this won't be a problem because body weight exercises are inherently better due to being old school.

bench presses ruin you because it works out only certain muscles therefore you become unbalanced and slow when it comes to punching as you actually need to use all your body pretty much
pushups works just about the whole body so it's pretty good for you all round

it depends on how you use the weights
like using some small weights for shadowboxing never hurt anyone, aslong as you dont over do it and damage your elbow joints

[TheNegation]

bench presses ruin you because it works out only certain muscles therefore you become unbalanced and slow when it comes to punching as you actually need to use all your body pretty much
pushups works just about the whole body so it's pretty good for you all round

I'm sorry but that is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.

The Bench Press is a compound lift.

There is so much ignorance in this section it's mind-blowing. There are very few people here who know what they are talking about.

[MKultra]

This is becoming the false information thread. Speed bag works your shoulders not your speed. Weights do not make you slower UNLESS your bodybuilding and gaining tons of mass which requires a specific diet.

[FeFist]

The one that bugs me the most is that weight lifting will make you (instantly) muscle bound and slow, but if you use body weight this won't be a problem because body weight exercises are inherently better due to being old school.

This isn't a myth, get hit by somebody who does weight lifting, then get hit by somebody that gained their strenght farming, building etc.

When people do weight lifting at a gym, often you find that muscles that don't help overall power grow in size.

I suppose moderation is key.

[Phenomkidd]

This isn't a myth, get hit by somebody who does weight lifting, then get hit by somebody that gained their strenght farming, building etc.

When people do weight lifting at a gym, often you find that muscles that don't help overall power grow in size.

I suppose moderation is key.

Yeah they grow cause you don't know what your doing. You have to target what you want to lift. Its not like if you bench OD your ass will gain 2-3lbs of muscle.

bench presses ruin you because it works out only certain muscles therefore you become unbalanced and slow when it comes to punching as you actually need to use all your body pretty much
pushups works just about the whole body so it's pretty good for you all round

it depends on how you use the weights
like using some small weights for shadowboxing never hurt anyone, aslong as you dont over do it and damage your elbow joints

Do you even know what your talking about? A push up is a not full body exercise, not even close. Also a bench press can be used as somewhat of a full body exercise done a certain way (deemed the right way by some). Pinched shoulder blades in, legs planted in a way so that you push off them constantly, etc.

[Spartacus Sully]

a push up can be a full body exercise as well.....though both exercises are compleatly worthless compared to other options.....atleast for boxing....i mean when was the last time you had to pronate your sternum while sparing?

so why dont we work on exercising one of the most useless muscles in our body the sternal head of the pectoris major...well not so much useless if your trying to make your chest look big or like to hold people close to you whiel you roll around on the ground, but i dont see how thats involved with punching. maybe if you want to advise people on how to wrestle and fight in mma you can tell them all the wonderfull things that push ups and bench pressing does but really bench pressing shouldnt even have a place in boxing and pushups only purpose would be to occupy a room full of 20 kids with something to do for 3 mins.

you would be alot better off doing pull ups, shrugs, pull overs, and back bends then push ups or bench pressing.