How to get a stronger punch?

[j]

majority of the power comes from the core and rotation of the hips

u forgot the GROUND!!! and the vertical.

btw. fellas, this is just getting interesting, buut im sleepy, so forgive the typos.

[Dynamite Glove]

listen to j...

to simplify what he's saying, think of it like a wheel spinning on an axle, compare that to a boxer throwing a left hook.

The axle spins, (The boxer pushes off with his legs) the grease on the axle makes the operation smoother (The boxer's core distributing the power through his body from his legs to his abs) and then the wheel spins, (The punch flowing past the top of the abdominals and through the torso and to the end of the fist) ...the more grease you use, the smoother the whole operation is, (The better trained you are at performing it all in perfect synchronization, the harder you'll hit.)

[Spartacus Sully]

yeah yeah ground is improtant but so is grounding yourself for a tai chi master would not slip on ice.

nah not a PT or anything like that just been trying and reading every thing possiable training wise for the past 7 years...though after my 6 month eval at the gym i go to i did get offered a job as a trainer.

what do you mean by verticle?

[Dynamite Glove]

vertical...the way you distribute the energy coming up with the punch. ie, you bend the knees abit before you try to land a nice uppercut and the power vertically comes through your legs, would be a good example. controlling this and distributing it more efficiently is the key to hitting harder

I find staying calm and focusing helps me alot more than anything when it comes to landing with serious force, as ironic as it sounds

[j]

yeah yeah ground is improtant but so is grounding yourself for a tai chi master would not slip on ice.

nah not a PT or anything like that just been trying and reading every thing possiable training wise for the past 7 years...though after my 6 month eval at the gym i go to i did get offered a job as a trainer.

what do you mean by verticle?

ahh, see i am interested in a few key subjects. proprioception. kenesiology. tensigrity - to name a few and should be studying for degree specializing in one of these. i dont know if a PT is the best way to practice any of these fields yet.

as for verticle, i dont really wanna say much, but for one example, eveything u do is in relation to staying upright. gravity constantly fights against the body, and being efficient in how to work with gravity leads to some interesting things. we can leacve it at that unless u wann PM me.

DG has a great opened mind btw, and with enough practice will probably hit like a MFer. if he doesnt yet i mean.

[Spartacus Sully]

Stretch shortening cycles

A stretch shortening cycle (SSC) describes a movement that begins in the opposite direction to the goal, thus stretching the goal agonist muscles, followed rapidly by the goal movement (in the opposite direction). The importance of the stretch shortening cycle is that it has been shown to produce higher speeds than concentric muscle action on its own. The exact reasons for this are still debated but probably include: utilisation of stored elasticity, greater range of movement and therefore time to ramp up force and pre-activation of muscle tension. What is not debated however, is that the stretch shortening cycle is beneficial.

The timing of voluntary muscle activation is important so that opposing muscle groups are not strongly activated at the same time. Also, the change of movement from away to towards the goal must happen quickly. Examples of where SSC's can be used are in back swings and jumping (using a counter movement jump) . The extra energy provided by the stretch shortening cycle gives more power to the shot or height to the jump. Note that body parts can undergo independent SSCs that can be sequenced at different times. More details of this will be presented in the specific technique sections.

Acceleration of distal segments by a proximal segment: when analysing a link of segments it can be readily seen that movement of bigger segments tends to also move the smaller segments (relative to world space). For example, rotate your upper arm around your shoulder so that your elbow goes forward. Not only does your upper arm move but so does your forearm and hand. This means that the hand has been accelerated by the action of those muscles around the shoulder. By extending this we can see that a series of accelerations proximal to a distal segment (e.g. hand) will all sum up to move the hand faster than if only the muscles around the distal segment (e.g. wrist) were used.

Conservation of momentum: total momentum (velocity * mass) is always conserved in physics. In a given system, inefficiency will result in momentum 'leaking' away to outside the system but a certain proportion will be maintained over a given time period. So when a body segment(s) is slowed its momentum is passed on. This can either be heavily absorbed by the main body or transferred to another body segment of comparable or smaller size. As a practical example, stand with one arm out straight in front of you at shoulder height and the other one down by your side. The arm by your side should be completely relaxed. Quickly move your outstretched are in an arc from in front of you to straight out to your side, still at the height of your shoulder. You should find the momentum transfers from your moving arm as it slows, to your relaxed arm. The relaxed arm should then rotate round in the same direction (e.g. clockwise) as the other arm was. This is because a proportion of rotational momentum has been conserved.

A player can combine the above two techniques with a link or chain of proximal to distal segments accelerating one after the other. As one segment starts to decelerate the momentum is passed up the chain to the next segment which should then in turn be accelerated. This creates a whipping like action that maximises the speed of the final distal segment.

Additionally, the delay of proximal movement can aid in SSC (covered in the previous section) because of the stretch developed by the timing differential between the movement of adjacent segments.

punching should never be compared to a wheel.

[j]

punching should never be compared to a wheel.

i dunnio if i wouold agree with that. but, of course it depends on which concept u are talking about.

if u ask a chen stylist, a circle and spiral is all that there are.

anyways, im off to bed. nice to meet a fellow TMA guy. and chat later DG.

[Spartacus Sully]

as for verticle, i dont really wanna say much, but for one example, eveything u do is in relation to staying upright. gravity constantly fights against the body, and being efficient in how to work with gravity leads to some interesting things. we can leacve it at that unless u wann PM me.

like leaning forward or backwards falling jumping grounding your self, pretty much adjusting your center of gravity?

[j]

like leaning forward or backwards falling jumping grounding your self, pretty much adjusting your center of gravity?

u do wing chun, yeah? u know there is a lot more to it then. coordinating your body is not so simple past basic skill.

the body is more tall than it is wide, well for most people, so verticle force, and use of it is at least as important. u can always Pm me if u r curious about something i wrote as i usually dont hang around the training section too much.

[Caesar]

i heard one time that to become a hard punch you can make bench-press but just 3 repetitions with maximal weight, but i never tried it