boxing and weight lifting

[Spartacus Sully]

"By lifting low with high reps i meant more something along the lines of bench pressing 80 pounds 200 times when you can bench press 200 pounds 20 times. Or doing 120 curls with 20 pounds dumbell when you could do 40 with 60 pounds dumbell."

sure i was being an a hole but every one of the exercises i mentioned is just low weights high reps so low weight infact that its actually 1 pound from each bag glove or just your body weight. sure you can press 80 lb 200 times or 200 lbs 20 times but better then that you can press 80 lb 200 times as fast as you can or you can explosively press 200 lb 20 times. My point is that if the lifting action that takes place is done at a speed that is your max its better then just lifting the weights.

also that 80 lb 200 times could be more effective then doing 200 lb 20 times assuming your doing the 80 lb 200 reps as fast as you can and your slowly doing the 20 200lb reps

though also as i mentioned before when lifting heavy weights i would explosively perform the contraction then hold and slowly drop the negative part

[Spartacus Sully]

this guy is a Olympic gymnast, its common knowledge that gymnasts never touch weights yet they are some of the strongest athelets pound for pound



bodyweight training for the win, weight lifting is just for people who take shortcuts

Planche pushups front levers iron crosses gymnyasts are beasts.

[bbos]

Planche pushups front levers iron crosses gymnyasts are beasts.

I'm implying that these bodyweight strength exercises are more effective for a boxer compared to traditional weight lifting, which is often frowned upon within the boxing gym.

[Spartacus Sully]

Yes and no they build up huge strength but its more of a static strength and its not very speed based. its good exercise but it would be better if you shadow boxed or hit the bag to work on speed plus did the gymnastic high leverage static holds

[Wyson]

you want high weight low reps. you will feel .01% slower throughout your training but 2 weeks before a fight you drop the weights and do alot of bw work. then the week of your fight you do no calistenics just skill + cardio. you will be amazed how fast you get in those 2 weeks.you will hit much much harder trust me. you can lift high reps but always do either less than 5 reps or more then 15 reps. in between is mostly hypertrophy and is not needed. think about this. everything else you do for boxing besides weights is for endurance. your throwing tons of punches, speed bag, mitts, sparring, running, calistenics. so when you go in the weight room why waste your time training the system you train everyday. make the gym sessions for max/explosive strength. bring the weight down controlled, not slow, and then explode up and try to lift as fast as possible. this is the real key. if you lift fast you will be fast. for lower body work you especially want heavy weight low reps. heavy back squats, heavy deadlifts, powercleans from the floor. you dont really need much else for your lower body with all the running that is needed. mabye just bw work like bw squats and lunges. every other week after your lifting sessions, do some explosive movements. if you did bench, squat, and row that day. later on do clap pushups, box jumps, and bw rows.you cant do this everytime as it is strenous on your body and you will get injuries like tennis elbow. good luck with the training!

wow......that is the worst info ever...dude, stick to low weights high rep...i do it and it has worked wonders for me. Goodluck!

[Trrmo]

I think we all agree on the thing that is misconceived by the general boxer crowd. Lifting heavy/lifting at all does NOT make you slow. Lifting "Heavy enough" for "high" reps (7ish+) is for hypertrophy. Lifting "light" for "higher" reps (13-14ish+?) is gonna be for endurance.

I agree with virtually all you have posted but it should be mentioned that hypertrophy won´t happened without calorie excess with a reasonable balance of protein/crbs/fat and rest. Hypertrophy can also happen when you lift heavy at lower reps also, for example 4-6 reps but you gotta eat and rest for it, I would imagine it could also happen at 14-20 reps with the same disclaimer. It is just that 8-12 is meant to be the most ideal for hypertrophy.

[Phenomkidd]

I agree with virtually all you have posted but it should be mentioned that hypertrophy won´t happened without calorie excess with a reasonable balance of protein/crbs/fat and rest. Hypertrophy can also happen when you lift heavy at lower reps also, for example 4-6 reps but you gotta eat and rest for it, I would imagine it could also happen at 14-20 reps with the same disclaimer. It is just that 8-12 is meant to be the most ideal for hypertrophy.

Yeah, thanks for adding that in there as calories do play a big part in lifting .

I'm implying that these bodyweight strength exercises are more effective for a boxer compared to traditional weight lifting, which is often frowned upon within the boxing gym.

Frowned upon for no reason, lifting and becoming slow is disproved myth of boxing.

[bbos]

Yeah, thanks for adding that in there as calories do play a big part in lifting .



Frowned upon for no reason, lifting and becoming slow is disproved myth of boxing.

speed is not the only detrimental factor, lifting and adding bulk will tax the cardiovascular system, thus reducing one's stamina.

[Phenomkidd]

speed is not the only detrimental factor, lifting and adding bulk will tax the cardiovascular system, thus reducing one's stamina.

Doesn't that go hand in hand with the myth? Lifting will make you bulky and slow? It will make you bulky...if you lift for it. That's why you lift for strength/power/etc.

[keepthemhandsup]

gyminist lift weights....how the hell you get that big doing push ups all day?