bodybuilding vs. strength training

[Spartacus Sully]

Ok so i think I've figured it out:

Explosive movements with heavy weights promote Explosive strength with out Hypertrophy. type 2b

med reps light weights fast movements promote endurance and fast speed with out hypertrophy .type 2a

high reps light weights promote endurance with out hypertrophy. Type 1

average weight average reps like 70% 1rm 8-12 reps promotes hypertrophy. just makes the muscle bigger dosent play a factor in TYPE

Another large factor in lifting weights is Rest periods with proper rest periods you can target different factors like Lactic acid threshold, ATP resynthesizes, increase myoglobin, mytocondria, ect.

over all it seems like anything thats 8-12 reps will make your muscles bigger and over all stronger due to increased size. just about everything else changes the performance of the muscles by increasing tendons or blood flow oxygen efficiency contraction speed ect. with out increasing the size of the muscle at a great rate.

[Kinetic Linking]

very interesting. I think savior is right that I'm probably trippin if I'm worried I'll accidentally turn into a bodybuilder. My only concern was that I was considering doing some intensely focused stuff, like one day do all different kinds of chest workouts including various weights and various reps until I was totally burned out and sore. I kind of figured that if I was doing every kind of weightlifting I could do, I couldn't help but end up a bodybuilder by accident.

[BrooklynBomber]

Op to answer your question as a former bodybuilder there are alot of variables involved in what it takes to "bodybuild"

If you fears are of getting muscle bound and your diet is not a bodybuilder's diet than you can put your fears to rest b/c it is physiologically impossible to gain muscular bodyweight on a fixed boxing diet.

If you're eating a diet geared to keep your weght at say a welterweight division, than all the lifting in the world won't make you a attain a bodybuilder's physique.

That being said, boxing relies on anaerobic speed and aerobic endurance.
Weight training can train both it all depends on how and what you do.

Doing 3 setsof 8 reps of bench presses trains your fast twitch muscle fibers as does doing 3 sets of 12 fast explosive reps

where as doing 3 sets of 50 reps with a lightweight trains your slow twitch muscle fibers.

Either way if you're not eating a bodybuilder's diet designed to gain mass than you won't acquire a bodybuilder's physique per say...hope this helped.

Pretty much all you need to know. However I got to note that even on a fixed diet it is possible to become musclebound, not because of the additional mass(cause you won't have it) but from muscular fatigue. However I would be the first guy to say that weight lifting is a total win for boxing if you do it right.

[kenso]

http://stronglifts.com/how-many-reps-should-you-do/

[Kinetic Linking]

thanks kenso, if that's accurate it's very informative. As for people saying you should control your results with diet, that's idiotic. If you're not eating enough to get the natural results of the workout, you're going to get burned out or injured. You want a proper workout with matching proper nutrition.

[holdthatthought]

Pretty much heavy weight, low reps builds stregnth and can make you more explosive.. thats why you see football players squatting crazy amounts of weights 3-5 times..


check this out, its a good starting stregnth program

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=712752


you will built a great base with that program

[TheNegation]

Bodybuilding is about symmetry and form over function.

[Patheticfraud?]

when you're lifting weights, what's the difference? I want to get serious about weightlifting but I'm concerned I'll end up bodybuilding by accident.

The goal of bodybuilding is to add weight. If you strength train for boxing you want to get as strong as possible while staying in your natural weight class.

[Trrmo]

thanks kenso, if that's accurate it's very informative. As for people saying you should control your results with diet, that's idiotic. If you're not eating enough to get the natural results of the workout, you're going to get burned out or injured. You want a proper workout with matching proper nutrition.

If you read the posts properly you would understand that you cannot bodybuild naturally without eating an excess of calories. The "natural results of the workout" will in part depend on nutrition. Once again, have a look at lightweight olympic weightlifters, the result of their training = incredible strength. They dont gain uwanted weight because they dont eat for it. But they eat just the right amount to achieve the weight they want. Without becoming burned out or injured, and this is with a huge amount of weight training.

If a boxer wanted to gain some all round strength he could do something like the Rippetoe "starting strength program", If the calorie intake is controlled he would definitely gain strength without gaining weight. But if a person used the same program and ate big, then he would gain weight in the form of muscle mass and some fat gain (and also get much stronger). So yes it is possible to control your results with diet.

[alza1988]

http://www.rosstraining.com/articles...htraining.html