The best way to increase punching power..

[Verstyle]

I honestly do think it's mostly born but you can work on it to get it also. I was born with it yet I still work my ass off to improve it. With punching bag work and technique, always room to further yourself.

[Landon S]

Alll right sooooo back on topic Punching Power...........Im not a boxer nor have i ever been in a boxing gym or been trained by a boxer. I did read jack dempseys book championship fighting and took tai chi and wing chun (1 year 2 hours week private lessons) so i have an idea on how to punch and how to ground myself and use my whole body when punching. now as far as i see it F=MA right? so you can either increase your mass or your speed if you want more force behind the punch. So what i do is increase the mass with muscles, tendons, and ligaments that I train for speed and i do this with a series of 4 with each part of the series consisting of 6 sets of 40 jabs alternating so each hand gets 20 with a 15 second break between each set and a 4-6 min break between each part of the series. now you can throw a jab in the air like normal shadow boxing or you can put in 150% effort and pretty much try to throw everything out of their sockets as your fist whips off your wrist across the room and through the wall this is what you should be doing each time you punch(the shock strangthens all the tendons and ligaments....Perhaps). when i first started i could only do 6 sets of 10 and one set took me almost 5 seconds now i can throw the 40 in almost 8 seconds before i could barely do this twice a week now i do the whole series 6 times a week. for some one trying this out though what will probably happen is you will hyper extend your arm, elbow joints will bruise and your shoulders and back will beee sooooooo sore. Let your self rest and recover maybe 2 or 3 days. once recovered do the punching again and again and again and work up to more punches and try to punch harder and faster. Pretty much your remodeling all your tendons and ligaments strengthening your joints paving pathways for tendons over your fast twitch muscles and tearing down muscle fibers into 2 smaller fibers giving you a higher ratio of muscle cells to water increasing your muscle surface area and allowing for more ATP creation and resynsnythis along with a higher lactic acid threshold. In the end the fast punching should make your body be able to punch harder and faster also it gives you a chance to perfect your punch technique and allows you to pratice keeping your balance after throwing punches with everything you have. So im building muscle that are fast twitch and tendons that aid that and can handle the force being put into them which is an increase in mass and if anything an increase in speed and even if there isn’t an increase in speed you arnt going to be slowing your self down so atleast the mass will increase for harder punching. OK so that last part about remodeling your body No idea mainly mubo jumbo that sounds cool But I do read a lot about exercising sooooo thats my reasoning for why i do this. of course im not a boxer or a trainer or some one that has ever been trained by a boxer or a trainer so I have no idea what im talking about and I don’t recommend anyone try this because I have no idea what its going to do to my elbow joints and shoulders 30 years down the road. so with all that said Im not sure if ive surpassed my potential but if not my potental has increase many times over through the evolution of my body and if you tell me that the body cant evolve over that time period what about building up an immunity to a poison i imagine that any vaccine out their wouldnt work other wise I mean your potential is to get sick beforehand but once you evolve from weaker doses of the virus the virus dosnt even have a chance same idea punch really hard and get hurt let your body heals stronger then before and before you know it you can pull off 10 sets of 100 and your body isnt even sore and you have become a self-made puncher not a born one....Perhaps perhaps one day ill be heavy weight champ of the world and then everyone will be reading this post MUWHHAAHAHAHAHAH

This should only be taken as an idea "like an ink blotter on legs i asorbed everything i could and got rid of what didnt feel right" Jack Dempsey. sounds like something bruce lee once said something about asorbing what is usefull and getting rid of the rest. if this dosent feel right dont do it but try to figure out why it dosent feel right before you push it off maybe you can turn it into something that works better for you.

The only thing of any use in that post is the talk about 150% effort. Your ATP, Lactic and blah blah blah theory(especially the part about splitting 1 fiber into 2) does not make sense, sorry but thats not how the body works. Perhaps you should read more than the fitness magazines like men's health.

[Spartacus Sully]

Satellite Cell Proliferation

Satellite cells consist of just a nucleus and it is within the nucleus of the cell that protein synthesis takes place. Growth factors can cause the satellite cells to combine with the damaged cells and assist in the damaged cells ability to synthesize protein more efficiently. The satellite cells can fuse to each other and create new muscle cells in a process know as hyperplasia. Studies have proven this true.

WHAT IS HYPERPLASIA?

Hypertrophy refers to an increase in the size of the cell while hyperplasia refers to an increase in the number of cells or fibers. A single muscle cell is usually called a fiber.

No need for links Just google Muscular Hyperplasia if you want to read more then what i have here

Now as far as the atp is concerned if i have more fibers i can create more atp perhaps? i dont know but id imagine 3 cells the size of 1 bloated cell would be able to use more lactic acid then the 1 bloated cell and probably create more atp? perhaps perhaps. what im not really sure of is how atp helps you i just know if you dont have it its rigor mortis and your muscles dont move perhaps its like a lubricant for your fibers? but ahhh i dont know if any of that atp stuff is true though i do know the muscle splitting thingy is true only when the fibers rip though like experiencing large amounts of eccentric exercising per say a pull up then let go with one hand in the up if you cant do a one arm pull up but your still some what strong you will drop slowly and this is eccentric and perhaps its tearing muscles be careful if your not strong you might really hurt your shoulder

[j]

wow, a lot of "teachers" out there i see.

thats why dont even comment on anymore.

ylem, for example u may npt know the high level of wing chun or boxing, but these guys just wanna hear from boxers. so refrain from helping if u can. only open minded uys will listen - and then u still can show them much by writing.

btw, my challenge offer still stands. but it is getting vey short on time before our next tourny.

[Trrmo]

Instead of worrying about trying to punch harder then everyone else concentrate on timing & accuracy, especially for amateurs, which is most of you out there.
An accurate punch thrown with the correct timing and leverage that lands on the edge of the chin or sweet spot can knock someone out, even if it is not thrown with 100% force.
Depending on your particular physical characteristics however you can find a suitable punch or combination that allows you to unleash a knockout. I am finding an overhand right followed by left hook harnesses alot more of my power then other punch combos. I have to get my feet especially in the roght position to get it too work. This combo what works for me, but probably not for all. But I am left handed at most things (but throw a ball better with my right), I box orthodox, and also have a slight curvature of the spine which alters the dynamicss a bit.
So of course genetics is the big factor, but I think you can increase power through weight training (concentrating on strength and explosive power), or by practicing different combos on the bag to find the best leverage and positioning to land a hard punch. But only when the opportunity arises, otherwise try to just score points.

[potatoes]

I honestly do think it's mostly born but you can work on it to get it also. I was born with it yet I still work my ass off to improve it. With punching bag work and technique, always room to further yourself.

Yes, there is always room to further yourself, but first you have to want it. You don't have to be a puncher to get knockouts and not all punchers get knockouts. The major difference between success and failure is that lovely little phrase: "...work my ass off...." You got to do it in the gym and in the ring.

[Equilibrium]

I don't want to get into an arguement with anybody about this but this is what i think:

I think a big part of if is genetics, better technique and practice can help, but you will never be able to take a weak puncher and turn him into a KO artist.

[spidershadow]

I think weightlifting is not the right way to increase your punching power. As Flicker said plyometric training is much better because it develops the fast twitching muscle fibers Landon S was refering to.

God given? Well I don't think the believsystem is a big factor in punching. But I know a boxer who can hit real hard. He convesed to me once that he went to Africa to a jujuman and paid this guy big chips for making him hit like an elephant. This did not save him thow from getting knocked out.

But by god given you ment having the right genes, right? Yeah, I agree with that. This makes a big difference! On the other hand I see some very young talented guys give up fighting because it comes to easy for them. The less talented guys seem to stay longer because they value more the work they put in.

Physics sounds so nice...But how do you translate the formulas into bodymechanics? I listened to diverent coaches and talked to a lot of the old school boxers in my gym. I also did some research and read a few boxing manuels. From what I heard there seems to be no real consense about this. There rather seem to be different variations of the right way to punch all with diferent details. This makes it only more intresting for me.

Ylem122 said, he practises wing chun and puts his whole body behind the punch? From what I have seen there is no way a wing chun chain fist can knock a good oponant out. A good old boxing cross does the job much better and realy has the body weight behind it. The only chain fist that could knock someone out would be Paul Vunak's, and he is no wing chun guy but from JKD. The way he does it is like in boxing by bringing his bodyweight into the punch. Sorry but that is just my opinion.

[bbos]

sigh...it seems like there is a thread like this every week, oh and I love how people would jump at the chance to tell others how powerful they are when ever a newb asks how to get power LOL.

and for the record guys if you are going to use physics, don't half ass it. there is no such thing as power=mass x velocity, that equation belongs to momentum.

[j]

sigh...it seems like there is a thread like this every week, oh and I love how people would jump at the chance to tell others how powerful they are when ever a newb asks how to get power LOL.

and for the record guys if you are going to use physics, don't half ass it. there is no such thing as power=mass x velocity, that equation belongs to momentum.

yeah, it is a lot more complicated than a simple formula like that.

like, take a big sponge and a brick. both would have same volume of mass, but which one being thrown at u would u rather avoid?

not to mention that momentum has to be transferred efficiently. there is much more to it. that is why throwing a punch is actually studied. and has been for many, many, many hundreds of years.