The best way to increase punching power..

[potatoes]

Genetics offer an edge, being able to do something naturally enables somebody to learn it quicker, doesn't prevent somebody else learning.

Man, there are some dumb ****ers on this forum if they generally believe that boxers can defy physics with "god given ability". ****ing ******s, listen to yourselves. Punching power is physics, thus, it has a law to it. Some are naturally better, but that doesn't mean somebody can't learn if they look at their particular body shape and size and figure it out. ****, didn't think there was even a counter argument to the most basic stuff we learn in primary school but I guess "nah, it's a ****** answer, it's god given" is just as valid for some of you.

Go onto google, search JACK DEMPSEY, CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHTING and the book is free on the internet because it's out of copyright now. Read the section PUNCHERS ARE MADE; NOT BORN.

I feel sorry for you guys who don't believe they stand a chance at bettering themselves to such a degree, i'm good to listen to myself and work at it.
, but continue running around believing you are all you can be because somebody else told you so...

Ok, why didn't you give us a list of all the punchers who were "made?" I have been around boxing longer than you have been alive yet I haven't encountered a puncher who was "made."

[JayCoe]

Ok, why didn't you give us a list of all the punchers who were "made?" I have been around boxing longer than you have been alive yet I haven't encountered a puncher who was "made."

Every boxer who has received training has increased their punching power past that which their genetic make up naturally determines. Some boxers find themselves closer to the maximum punching power that physics determines from their individual make up, while others, due to incorrect or lacking specific techniques, find themselves further away. Some examples of boxers who haven't been made is a shorter list, best example that springs to mind is Jack Johnson, who although did receive training, was seen more to have trained himself in the art of fighting rather than specific boxing technique.

Was having this discussion with somebody earlier, they disagreed with me as well, however not on the principle that punching power is down to physics and that genetics doesn't determine a limit of punching power. They argued that all things being equal between two people, one may be able to punch harder solely down to mentality. An aggressive person is more likely to utilise such where as a peaceful person isn't. I can agree with that, but nothing else. Correct training and technique can increase punching power, roughly equal to anybody who possesses a better genetic make up for punching so long as the equation of power is balanced between the two individuals.

Again, I can only hope you just read up on it, as i've stated, look at Jack Dempsey's book free online.

[dchampishere]

i find that most of the posters here have never fought or been in a gym and learn all of thier so called know-how from books, the fact is that punchers are born not made period. you can better your tecnique to make your punches more efficent but thats all. anybody who has fought or has been in a real boxing gym for any period of time knows this. and all of the physics are nice but its all about genetics

[JayCoe]

You can accuse me of not boxing if you like, wont change that it's what I do. Was only last week that two welterweights sparred, one was above 6ft and slim as hell, the other is about 5ft 10 and is reasonably muscled, it was clear who had the stronger punch.

[dchampishere]

first of all jay i dont know you so why would i accuse you of not boxing?
that is not what we are disgussing, to say anybody can play basetball like mike jorden or punch as hard as foreman thu physics and training is very silly. that is god given abillity pure and simple. your berry sanders, bo jacksons, kobe bryans and so on were born with that abillity and training enhanced it. everyboby hits hard but true power is and always will be a god-given thing. true punchers are rare thats why they are so exciting to watch, every pro boxer trains corectly so why arent there more true punchers? answer because its god-given and rare.

[potatoes]

i find that most of the posters here have never fought or been in a gym and learn all of thier so called know-how from books, the fact is that punchers are born not made period. you can better your tecnique to make your punches more efficent but thats all. anybody who has fought or has been in a real boxing gym for any period of time knows this. and all of the physics are nice but its all about genetics

Yeah, that is what it is. I've seen kids walk into the gym who, with no prior training, can hit harder than anybody in the gym. Nobody knows where they get that firepower from, they don't even know it themselves. Either you got it or you don't. Nevertheless, you still have to learn how to box.

[Pacmanjay]

i find that most of the posters here have never fought or been in a gym and learn all of thier so called know-how from books, the fact is that punchers are born not made period. you can better your tecnique to make your punches more efficent but thats all. anybody who has fought or has been in a real boxing gym for any period of time knows this. and all of the physics are nice but its all about genetics

I think this guy JayCoe (or whatever the hell his name is) is a weak puncher and wants to believe that he can punch like Darnell Wilson with some bag work. His insecurity makes himself believe that he can punch twice as hard as he can then currently if he puts his small mind to it. lmao

[Pacmanjay]

You can accuse me of not boxing if you like, wont change that it's what I do. Was only last week that two welterweights sparred, one was above 6ft and slim as hell, the other is about 5ft 10 and is reasonably muscled, it was clear who had the stronger punch.

LOL


Dude, you just need to understand punching is not just PHYSICS. Its about BIOLOGY too. People are born with extremely different potential and training can only get you up to that potential. Most people can't punch that hard, thats why heavy hitters are a hot commodity in boxing.

When you see a boxing match, 90% of fight include fighters with average or below hitting power. That's why they are able to go 10-12 rounds while getting hit with flush shots from each other. And most pros who make it to the level where they have to go 10-12 rounds work/have worked much harder than YOU can ever imagine. So why can't they all punch like Tyson when most of them trained almost if not equally hard? If everyone could hit hard simply by training to hit harder then almost every fight would end in a knockout.


I'm sorry to break it to you buddy, but you'll never be a knockout artist (It's obvious you're not a heavy hitter since you made this thread and the posts that you made).

[JayCoe]

I'm not a heavy hitter, not a weak one though, about middle. Not breaking anything to me, I know how I box so I utilise that. Not everyone wants to be a heavy hitter, that's a particular style in most cases. I fight with reflex and speed, fight on the outside with jabs, move in, flurry with hooks to the body and head, move out and jabs again. I just know you're still wrong.

I still think you're a kid somewhere who idolises Heavyweights, thinking that he's one of them. I box, I don't argue over petty forums. Just use your brain and read about it, you'll soon realise you're wrong...But you don't want to be doing that though, right?

[JayCoe]

Seems as you're unable to find the book i'm on about via google i'll quote some for you. I'm nice like that.

What would happen if a year-old baby fell from a fourth-floor window onto the head of a burly truck driver, standing on the sidewalk?
It's practically certain that the truckman would be knocked unconscious. He might die of brain concussion or a broken neck.
Even an innocent little baby can become a dangerous missile WHEN ITS BODY-WEIGHT IS SET INTO FAST MOTION.
You may feel as helpless as a year-old infant-as far as fighting is concerned; but please remember: (1) YOU WEIGH MORE THAN A BABY,
and (2) YOU NEED NOT FALL FROM A WINDOW TO PUT YOUR BODY-WEIGHT INTO MOTION.
You have weight, and you have the means of launching that weight into fast motion.
Furthermore, you have explosive ingredients. You may not appear explosive. You may appear as harmless as a stick of dynamite, which
children have been known to mistake for an oversized stick of taffy.
You can launch your body-weight into fast motion; and, like dynamite, you can explode that hurtling weight against an opponent with a
stunning, blasting effect known as follow-through.

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Louis retired as undefeated heavyweight champion in 1949. And I'll bet that, as he retired, Joe considered himself a natural-born puncher. I
know that's probably true because I had the same mistaken idea about myself during my career and for a time after I hung up my gloves,

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This one is certainly worth reading;

To protect yourself with your fists, you must become a knockout puncher. And you may do that within three months, if you're a normal chapanywhere
between twelve and forty. By "normal" I mean healthy and sound-neither ailing nor crippled

You should be able to knock out a fellow of approximately your own weight, with either fist, if you follow my instructions exactly and practice
them diligently. And in six months or a year, you may be able to knock out fellows a lot bigger and heavier than you are.
You've got the weight and the machinery. In fact, you're the Kayo Kid.

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I guess he agrees that anyone with proper technique can achieve this?

That's just a few quotes because I got bored looking, just read up on boxing, might learn something. Now, who to believe, Jack Dempsey...or you?