So, how do you beat up these Kung Fu guys?

[j]

again, i think you have to have studied martial arts for many years to get even a shallow understanding of them. now, i love boxing, that is why i chill on this site. my art is basically boxing at it's beginning level. my teacher has boxing training and even has a published article about comparing the two arts.

it is weird that people think of boxing as being separate from martial arts. and even seemingly having blind loyalty to boxing as the superior art of choice to use for self defence.

jack dempsey wrote a great book on using boxing for self defense. it is not very different than a "kung fu" training manual.

[j.razor]

that was weak!!!

[j]

that was weak!!!

yes, but let's give it pionts for being funny as hell. especially mr vogue in the red shirt and tough thug who gets put on his ass by a rookie in bull****-do.

[JayCoe]

J is right, which kind of goes without saying to be honest. The biggest problem with this thread is the use of the term "martial arts" which is too broad of a definition. I tried to make some seperation between them by saying to go on the inside for Karate etc. but acknowledge the elbows of Muay Thai. I meant to mention JuJitsu and how you'd work the jab from the outside stance but seemed to forget to add that part. What I did forget which j mentioned was Wing Tsun.

That's a very aggressive very close combat sport in which somebody skilled in the art could probably throw about 8 punches in a few seconds but i'll admit I don't know the power of their punches, I just know of it for its constant blocking and incredible speed. Goes without saying that here you'd stay on the outside, or, you use their desire to fight using their art against them by moving backwards which would making them follow you to get in close and then quickly change, sharply slam into them and really fight on the inside as in pivot your shoulder into theirs so you're side on and hit with an uppercut, slip under and behind and move for the next shot (but you are in a street fight so I guess you could do what you want from behind but that's abit cowardly but then again if they really are skilled it's abit ****** not to. Guess it depends). The reason this might work, j correct me if i'm wrong here please, is as far as I know the Wing Tsun guard bases itself on having your forearms against theirs etc. and/or have a quite a wide guard which means if you're quick you could get inside their arms but with boxing, well atleast amatuer, the guard tends to be tight up by the face which means if you slammed into me my guard is still up, you're not "in it". This means you could possibly leave them without a guard but man you'd have to be quick and skilled. Easy to write, hard to do.

[j]

well, not being a wing chun expert, but having watched the sticky hand comps up close with great interest the last few years, i would say you are half right half wrong.

there is always a way to deal with a situation. i have found, the more you are into martial arts, the more different people you will encounter. the more different people you encounter, the more your physical vocabulary expands.

everybody is looking for your weak points when you play or spar. so, you have better be aware of them if you want to survive as being known as a decent fighter.

my style i, and many other people refer to it as chinese boxing. technically, any fighting style is called boxing in chinese. but what i practice will look like boxing when you are a begginner because we like power punches. it is different than how you think of wing chun as we would focus more on one powerfully measured strike than 5 little ones. the system i know is made to adapt to any situation because it is not based on technique. it is based on principal of movement, strategy, etc... so, we do not have a "if he does that i do this" type of training. one movement, or better expressed - type of power or force - can be used as a throw, strike, and push for example. my blog has more details.

[rowdy144]

This reminds me of an article I read online last week. This guy who had done boxing for a number of years went to a Karate or Tae Kwon do lesson just to check it out. I think somehow he ended up speaking with the instructor and the instructor found out he did boxing and wanted them to spar in front of the class afterwards. The instructor started telling him he would go easy on him and as soon as he threw a strate punch the boxer slipped it and threw a body shot.

I was gonna post this article up in this thread but can't find it, has anyone else come accross this article?