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  • #11
    Originally posted by Rafael Benitez View Post
    conditioning tips because excessive weights will make it hard for you to make the weight.
    K man, shut up. You know **** all or your an idiot.

    #1: Conditioning and Lifting weights are two completely different things. Generally (if you even use weights during a particular conditioning routine) the weights are light so you can go fast. Im not explaining any more. Try re reading your book or buy some more and do everything in your power to bring your comprehension up because you infalibly misinterpret things.

    #2: You said it yourself "EXCESSIVE weights will make it hard to make weight"! god damn do I really have to explain AGAIN that you can lift without gaining mass. Weights does not = HYUUUGE!

    #3: Im backed up by years & years of scientific research conducted by some of the most intelligent people on earth (not "tradition" and name dropping like you), what have you got sonny?

    #4: Me--> <--Rafael

    ha ha I love that

    I lose brain cells reading your posts

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Landon S View Post

      #2: You said it yourself "EXCESSIVE weights will make it hard to make weight"! god damn do I really have to explain AGAIN that you can lift without gaining mass. Weights does not = HYUUUGE!
      yeah i dont understand people who think that either. ppl lift hard and EAT BIG to gain muscle mass. it is hardly as simple as lifting weights and drinkin a shake

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      • #13
        wow i didnt know about this fast/slow twitch ****

        that explains why i tire so easily yet i have good speed and power for the first few punches

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        • #14
          I don't think weights slow me down, I only feel slow right after I do weights..if i take a week or so off..I feel great

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          • #15
            a lot of fast people i know don't get much into weight lifting. you do have to stay in shape, but i would not recommend overdoing it. you have to know what works best with your frame.

            try getting in touch with your instincts when u box. thinking only slows you down in sparring.

            and the more relaxed you are, the quicker u can move because muscles will not oppose eachother as much.

            practice coordination. people aren't born coordinated.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Landon S View Post
              K man, shut up. You know **** all or your an idiot.

              #1: Conditioning and Lifting weights are two completely different things. Generally (if you even use weights during a particular conditioning routine) the weights are light so you can go fast. Im not explaining any more. Try re reading your book or buy some more and do everything in your power to bring your comprehension up because you infalibly misinterpret things.

              #2: You said it yourself "EXCESSIVE weights will make it hard to make weight"! god damn do I really have to explain AGAIN that you can lift without gaining mass. Weights does not = HYUUUGE!

              #3: Im backed up by years & years of scientific research conducted by some of the most intelligent people on earth (not "tradition" and name dropping like you), what have you got sonny?

              #4: Me--> <--Rafael

              ha ha I love that

              I lose brain cells reading your posts
              You are seriously gay and insecure. I don't have to take part in your proving yourself contest beause I have qualifications from Halton College which were funded by LFC while I played for their Academy! You are probably a bum so never learned about the two different types of speed required in boxing compared to other sports.

              Anyway, we are talking about boxing not sprinting. People who want to do alot of weights to increase fast twitch fibres are clearly misguided because to box you need speed of reaction as well as speed of movement. Whilst weights improves the latter, it has been proven scientifically that they clearly hinder the former!

              People who want to be bulky, stiff and easy to hit can go ahead and do some heavy weights. Speed is natural and I doubt it would help you much on the movement side either. You can try convincing yourself it does, but I'll stay fast with my knuckle press ups and I can gurantee that the weights will make you into a robot!

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              • #17
                Ahuh, suuure buddy. Where were these 'qualifications' when you prescribed something like 5 mile run and 1000 knuckle pushups & situps a day and everybody ripped on you? why didnt you bust out the "qualifications" bomb then? btw if you had any qualifications youd see how ******ed that was, theres tonnes of **** wrong with what would come of a routine like that and if youd like me to spell it all out for you you can PM me and we'll 'discuss it'. And we were talking purely speed not reaction...gee your a smart guy...going into completely different topics...

                Ya know I usually try to keep a civil tongue here but you make it REALLY ****ing hard. Im not trying to prove anything, just have an INTELLIGENT discussion that was over before you piped in so SHUTEE.

                Anyhow Im done with you. Your posts are nothing but 'verbal' diarrhea. Go crap somewhere else.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Rafael Benitez View Post
                  You are seriously gay and insecure. I don't have to take part in your proving yourself contest beause I have qualifications from Halton College which were funded by LFC while I played for their Academy! You are probably a bum so never learned about the two different types of speed required in boxing compared to other sports.

                  Anyway, we are talking about boxing not sprinting. People who want to do alot of weights to increase fast twitch fibres are clearly misguided because to box you need speed of reaction as well as speed of movement. Whilst weights improves the latter, it has been proven scientifically that they clearly hinder the former!

                  People who want to be bulky, stiff and easy to hit can go ahead and do some heavy weights. Speed is natural and I doubt it would help you much on the movement side either. You can try convincing yourself it does, but I'll stay fast with my knuckle press ups and I can gurantee that the weights will make you into a robot!
                  Science has proven you to be an imbecile. What you're saying is false, and you clearly have not read a ****ing thing about any of this since you're pulling claims out of your ass. Go to a soccer forum and spew your bull****.

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                  • #19
                    I think first and foremost, before thinking about weights, you have to condition your brain to punch fast. You can have quick hands but if you only ever do jab, jab, backhand or left hook [body], left hook [head], backhand straight it wont dominate the other fighter. We need to train on the bag by working fast, I don't know for certain about you all but most people, myself included, do seem to work the bag in combos of 3, 4 or 5. I am a firm believer that the brain is a very important tool in boxing. In the ring you don't have time to plan things out and if you do, you'll end up getting caught and destroyed, however, you also can't 'let go' and let your reactions take control because there are tactics and skills, guards to be kept up, movements to be made etc, you still have to be intelligent, therefore, it is crucial that the boxer meets somewhere in the middle of reaction and cognitive thinking.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by JayCoe View Post
                      I think first and foremost, before thinking about weights, you have to condition your brain to punch fast. You can have quick hands but if you only ever do jab, jab, backhand or left hook [body], left hook [head], backhand straight it wont dominate the other fighter. We need to train on the bag by working fast, I don't know for certain about you all but most people, myself included, do seem to work the bag in combos of 3, 4 or 5. I am a firm believer that the brain is a very important tool in boxing. In the ring you don't have time to plan things out and if you do, you'll end up getting caught and destroyed, however, you also can't 'let go' and let your reactions take control because there are tactics and skills, guards to be kept up, movements to be made etc, you still have to be intelligent, therefore, it is crucial that the boxer meets somewhere in the middle of reaction and cognitive thinking.
                      I agree, it's just that what you're talking about is off topic. Technique is one thing, physical training is another. You need both, obviously.

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