Chuck Liddell on punching technique.

[peewee1460]

liddells punch is fine for the ufc. but, unless ur hands are considerably faster than ur opponents, this is just not an intelligent trick to pull more than once a fight or sparring session. it's just too looping to be used effectivley on a regular basis

[Ace Dutrey]

hence why i said in boxing it's not effective and in MMA it is. When I myself have used this punch in MMA never have i thrown the punch and then taken a step back and never has it been a one punch rhythm punch. Remember this is MMA you don't punch and just chill you have to factor in Knees, thai kicks, and the ever loving TAKEDOWN. In boxing you have none of these other factors to worry about. Of course if you think of it in the boxing sense it would never work in a sparring session more than once. But this is not boxing, this is MMA. Liddel and MANY other fighters use this punch effectively and without having it labeled a "trick" to pull off it is just one of many in the large arsenal that is the entire human body in MMA. When confined to the boxing sense of course it is not very effective and can be labeled as you say a "trick". Not in the MMA world; it is just as effective and used just as frequently as any other punch. You also have to factor in that this is not boxing. That punch with large gloves won't do much damage. Use Freestyle open ******** gloves when using that punch and watch how effective this "lil ol' trick" can be. Ez
-Ace

[rizkybizness]

Wow, this thread should be titled:

"Telegraphing your shots so you can get KOd"

[J_CON]

Thats a horrible punch. Your asking to get knocked by doing that.

[Mistadobalina]

hence why i said in boxing it's not effective and in MMA it is. When I myself have used this punch in MMA never have i thrown the punch and then taken a step back and never has it been a one punch rhythm punch. Remember this is MMA you don't punch and just chill you have to factor in Knees, thai kicks, and the ever loving TAKEDOWN. In boxing you have none of these other factors to worry about. Of course if you think of it in the boxing sense it would never work in a sparring session more than once. But this is not boxing, this is MMA. Liddel and MANY other fighters use this punch effectively and without having it labeled a "trick" to pull off it is just one of many in the large arsenal that is the entire human body in MMA. When confined to the boxing sense of course it is not very effective and can be labeled as you say a "trick". Not in the MMA world; it is just as effective and used just as frequently as any other punch. You also have to factor in that this is not boxing. That punch with large gloves won't do much damage. Use Freestyle open ******** gloves when using that punch and watch how effective this "lil ol' trick" can be. Ez
-Ace

just face it. it's an awful punch that even got liddel ktfo'd once he fought someone with at least an idea of boxing fundamentals...aka rampage and his eddie futch-discipled boxing coach. and punches like that is also what got him tattoo'd by a straighter punching jardine. since when do mma trainers encourage their fighters to throw wide, telegraphed, and downright disgusting like that? you only see so many mma fighters unleash leather in that manner when you got some late-20something to early-30somethin former high school wrestler who literally picked up boxing just 3 months prior to his mma debut.

anderson silva would never be caught dead throwing a punch like that. so to say that proper boxing technique doesn't fly in mma is not only untrue, but straight up ignorant if you think supplementing a real right hand with those awful ones chuck displays is gonna get you far. i'd love to see the look on one of those brainwashed guys' face in the video as the ref is yanking his mouth piece out while he slowly awakens and wonders wtf he's going in a cage. all the semantics you posted is just random garbage to make an excuse for the lack of refinement that even good "mma strikers" possess. it's not meant to be disrespectul, it's just a fact that mma's talent pool is heavily comprised of grappling based competitors of the highest class, as opposed to its standup pool (which is rising, however) that is mainly comprised of strikers with either low notoriety, or no professional experience at all. remember elite xc's cbs debut? how many of the fighters labeled themselves as boxing stylists as their stand up art? almost 1 out of 3...yet how many of them have even boxed before? only ONE person posessed some sort of amateur boxing experience, while NONE of them had a single professional bout..."raised in the discipline of boxing" my ass.

i'm sure you're gonna go on about small gloves and chuck's looping being able to penetrate guards and yada yada...well sure if he's fighting tito ortiz. sure if he's fighting jeremy horn. sure if he's fighting guys that make chuck look like joe louis in the standup department. chuck has good power and he has a good chin, so of course those intangibles alone are gonna rack him plenty of KO's against guys who aren't primarily strikers, or even a few guys that actually are (overeem, and mezger). but let's not pretend like he wasn't getting his ass brutalized by mezger and overeem prior to chuck finally landing on their chins. there are ways to PROPERLY loop a punch, yaknow?...and there are ways to properly throw an overhand for goodness sake. look at what urijah faber did to jens pulver with that bernard hopkins style overhand right? same principle as chuck's bumfight punch, but it landed much more often, more effectively, and at the same he was able to stay defended from a counter. if urijah was just known as a 1-punch KO type of guy, he'd have KO'd plenty of guys with the rights he was landing.

[aussieboxer2320]

hence why i said in boxing it's not effective and in MMA it is. When I myself have used this punch in MMA never have i thrown the punch and then taken a step back and never has it been a one punch rhythm punch. Remember this is MMA you don't punch and just chill you have to factor in Knees, thai kicks, and the ever loving TAKEDOWN. In boxing you have none of these other factors to worry about. Of course if you think of it in the boxing sense it would never work in a sparring session more than once. But this is not boxing, this is MMA. Liddel and MANY other fighters use this punch effectively and without having it labeled a "trick" to pull off it is just one of many in the large arsenal that is the entire human body in MMA. When confined to the boxing sense of course it is not very effective and can be labeled as you say a "trick". Not in the MMA world; it is just as effective and used just as frequently as any other punch. You also have to factor in that this is not boxing. That punch with large gloves won't do much damage. Use Freestyle open ******** gloves when using that punch and watch how effective this "lil ol' trick" can be. Ez
-Ace

dude shut up

[Ace Dutrey]

ok tough guy, i forgot how internet forums were. Don't worry regardless of what any1 says you will think how you think and I will think how i think. Which means nobody wins this argument. simple and basic truth. lol Aussieboxer now what was the point of that anyway? It's ok Aussieboxer don't worry it's ok lol

[potatoes]

Either Chuck Liddell doesn't know how to punch or he is willfully misleading those kids.

Several years ago I saw a guy in the cage throw a textbook overhand right in response to a lazy jab. Knocked this kung-fu clown flat out on the canvass and the victim was going into convulsions before they cut off the camera. With the usual ufc bull****-propaganda the sportscasters then began claiming how safe ufc is! Why didn't they show end result of what happens when a man gets hit with a real punch?

[aussieboxer2320]

ok tough guy, i forgot how internet forums were. Don't worry regardless of what any1 says you will think how you think and I will think how i think. Which means nobody wins this argument. simple and basic truth. lol Aussieboxer now what was the point of that anyway? It's ok Aussieboxer don't worry it's ok lol

ok guy who thinks that disgrace on the video is a proper punch!

come to my gym or in fact any decent boxing gym and throw a punch like that against a decent and experienced boxer and see how quickly you get countered and embarrassed.

or better yet, get into a streetfight, your technique will be right at home there!