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[DA1CATAS]

I guess im in the middle...

You need sparring where you go all out... and you need sparring where you learn..

Lol my trainer usually cuts me lose when we went to other gyms.. At home i nver use full power... Even though some of the guys do on me when they try.

[!! Shawn]

i have to disagree, sparring is all about preparing for real bouts and if your just go soft and light in sparing and then when you have a real bout whats gonna happen....

the guy who been sparring hard and tough will knock ten bells outa you because you wont know who to come with the pace and power..

tyson always sparred full on , thats why he had so many sparring partners, ricky hatton spars with the same intensity he shows in the ring,

sparring should be almost the same as a bout with both people really giving their all, working on speed, power, footwork, intensity,
No sparring should be preformerd lightly unless the other person is just begining....

shaun are you saying if i came to your gym and started to spar with the same intensity im used to, i would be told to stop...? why is that, surly is better if you can spar properly and not have to go light on each other

No, you would simple be put in with fighters that are bigger, meaner, smarter, and hit harder than you, that would keep you honest until you learned to spar properly.

[PunchDrunk]

i have to disagree, sparring is all about preparing for real bouts and if your just go soft and light in sparing and then when you have a real bout whats gonna happen....

the guy who been sparring hard and tough will knock ten bells outa you because you wont know who to come with the pace and power..

tyson always sparred full on , thats why he had so many sparring partners, ricky hatton spars with the same intensity he shows in the ring,

sparring should be almost the same as a bout with both people really giving their all, working on speed, power, footwork, intensity,
No sparring should be preformerd lightly unless the other person is just begining....

shaun are you saying if i came to your gym and started to spar with the same intensity im used to, i would be told to stop...? why is that, surly is better if you can spar properly and not have to go light on each other

You're simply showing a lack of understanding what training is all about. If all you do is spar full on, you're not gonna learn how to do things right. You'll limit yourself to the things that work. The problem with that is that nothing works without practicing it in a controlled situation. When you spar hard, all you do is repeat the few things you know, but you also keep repeating the things you do wrong. The more you do the wrong things, the more they bexome reflex, and the harder they will be to unlearn.

If you watch those youtube tutorials that someone posted, watch the ones with Freddie Roach. He says he hates guys who come into sparring and go at it like it's a fight, because nobody will learn anything from that. Seems to me Pacman has no problem with intensity in his fights, like you claim people would if they spar light.

Ricky Hatton's really not much of a boxer, he brawls, so I'll believe that he does the same thing in sparring. Not much emphasis on skill in his boxing.
Tyson definitely did not always spar all out. Maybe towards thge end of his career, incidentally his skills eroded fast as well.

[PunchDrunk]

I guess im in the middle...

You need sparring where you go all out... and you need sparring where you learn..

Lol my trainer usually cuts me lose when we went to other gyms.. At home i nver use full power... Even though some of the guys do on me when they try.

I can agree to that. Technical sparring should be the larger part though. The hard sparring is mostly for conditioning though.

Also keep in mind that there's a big difference in how much and what kind of sparring you need according to your experience level. When you have 100+ fights, and have 20-30-40 fights a year, you don't need to spar hard, because you're fighting almost every week.

[!! Shawn]

You're simply showing a lack of understanding what training is all about. If all you do is spar full on, you're not gonna learn how to do things right. You'll limit yourself to the things that work. The problem with that is that nothing works without practicing it in a controlled situation. When you spar hard, all you do is repeat the few things you know, but you also keep repeating the things you do wrong. The more you do the wrong things, the more they bexome reflex, and the harder they will be to unlearn.

If you watch those youtube tutorials that someone posted, watch the ones with Freddie Roach. He says he hates guys who come into sparring and go at it like it's a fight, because nobody will learn anything from that. Seems to me Pacman has no problem with intensity in his fights, like you claim people would if they spar light.

Ricky Hatton's really not much of a boxer, he brawls, so I'll believe that he does the same thing in sparring. Not much emphasis on skill in his boxing.
Tyson definitely did not always spar all out. Maybe towards thge end of his career, incidentally his skills eroded fast as well.

Very well put. As the saying goes, if you can't do it slow, you can't do it fast. The point of sparring is to do it "slow" so that when things speed up, you are not in over your head. You know what to do, you know how to react, and most importantly, you are comfortable and relaxed.

The idea that you will have an intensity problem is a complete misunderstanding of boxing it self. Even IF and its a BIG IF, sparring light would cause you to fight light, it would be worth it. 10 times out of a 10, a more relaxed fighter that can see punches coming will out point an "intense" fighter that is just trying to kill you.

You have to realize that amateur boxing IS a game. A dangerous game, but it is a game. It has strategies, rules, and things that work best.

It is a game of points, not a game of damage. Being relaxed, and seeing scoring opportunities is MUCH MUCH MUCH more important than being "tough" and "rough" and ready to "fight".

You need to stop thinking of it as fighting. It is not fighting, it is boxing. You are rewarded for scoring points, not for scoring damage.

[mr tricky]

You're simply showing a lack of understanding what training is all about. If all you do is spar full on, you're not gonna learn how to do things right. You'll limit yourself to the things that work. The problem with that is that nothing works without practicing it in a controlled situation. When you spar hard, all you do is repeat the few things you know, but you also keep repeating the things you do wrong. The more you do the wrong things, the more they bexome reflex, and the harder they will be to unlearn.

If you watch those youtube tutorials that someone posted, watch the ones with Freddie Roach. He says he hates guys who come into sparring and go at it like it's a fight, because nobody will learn anything from that. Seems to me Pacman has no problem with intensity in his fights, like you claim people would if they spar light.

Ricky Hatton's really not much of a boxer, he brawls, so I'll believe that he does the same thing in sparring. Not much emphasis on skill in his boxing.
Tyson definitely did not always spar all out. Maybe towards thge end of his career, incidentally his skills eroded fast as well.

no look, i dont think i explained myself very well,

my gym has over 20 amature fighters who have won national chmapionships in england and other championships we are an old gym and have produced loads os good fighters,

our sparring is not how you wud imagine, its not 2 people swining wildly to knock the other out,
its all controlled, agression , controled , neat, acruate, hard, fast, .......proper sparring,

forget tapping your oponent, you do that to the beginners or sumone smaller than you,

shaun dont say that i would be taught top spar properly, im not brggin but form the looks of things and the videos youve posted i would completly dominate you in the ring, you not as good as you think you,

[!! Shawn]

no look, i dont think i explained myself very well,

my gym has over 20 amature fighters who have won national chmapionships in england and other championships we are an old gym and have produced loads os good fighters,

our sparring is not how you wud imagine, its not 2 people swining wildly to knock the other out,
its all controlled, agression , controled , neat, acruate, hard, fast, .......proper sparring,

forget tapping your oponent, you do that to the beginners or sumone smaller than you,

shaun dont say that i would be taught top spar properly, im not brggin but form the looks of things and the videos youve posted i would completly dominate you in the ring, you not as good as you think you,

What ever you say.

[PunchDrunk]

no look, i dont think i explained myself very well,

my gym has over 20 amature fighters who have won national chmapionships in england and other championships we are an old gym and have produced loads os good fighters,

our sparring is not how you wud imagine, its not 2 people swining wildly to knock the other out,
its all controlled, agression , controled , neat, acruate, hard, fast, .......proper sparring,

forget tapping your oponent, you do that to the beginners or sumone smaller than you,

shaun dont say that i would be taught top spar properly, im not brggin but form the looks of things and the videos youve posted i would completly dominate you in the ring, you not as good as you think you,

That's not what Shawn said though. He said you'd be put in with a bigger, better, stronger guy, mentioning nothing about that guy being him.

I don't care how you put it, it's still the same message, and you're still wrong, for the same reasons.