Videos : Bagwork

[T-97]

Dunno if there is much point me saying this....But i noticed that as you were moving to your left (on the second video) near the start, You were sort of bringing your feet into a straight line or slightly crossing them.

The reason they are saying you look begginer is cause you are not punching with much speed or noticable power, possibly due to the heavy ass bag though

Peace

[!! Shawn]

I did give you real criticism, and you replied with a bunch of straight up bull**** (Like "I hit with more power than you think." Of course you do. In your dreams. BS!) . After that, there's only you suck left for you, because nothing gets through to you anyway. I'm done with this, keep up the good work.

You told me my right hands were ****ty, and I agreed with you. I am a natural southpaw, of course my right hands are ****ty. I need lots of work on my right hands. I don't get full extension. I don't get full turn in my body, I shift my weight to far over my front foot, I don't turn them over all the way.

As I said, I know what my mistakes are, and I know what I need to work on. I am not claiming to be perfect, or infallible. I never claimed to have the fastest hands in the world but I do have more hand speed than I use, and that is one of my mistakes.

[!! Shawn]

Dunno if there is much point me saying this....But i noticed that as you were moving to your left (on the second video) near the start, You were sort of bringing your feet into a straight line or slightly crossing them.

The reason they are saying you look begginer is cause you are not punching with much speed or noticable power, possibly due to the heavy ass bag though

Peace

That is a good critique. I do have a tendency to get my feet in a strait line. I have been working on that, but I still do it from time to time. If you watch my pad work, I fell off balance throwing a body shot because of this.

[mr tricky]

Keep in mind, I am hitting a 200lb bag. I am throwing with more power than you think. I think people are use to seeing videos of people hitting 70-90lb bags.

I am 140lb (140.6lb). You are never going to see the bag go flying. As I said earlier, I can sprint into the bag and it won't budge and inch.

here you go again......

punchdrunk knows what he is talking about,

that is what i meant when i sed wait for some people to comment who know what theyre talking about.


ok il tell you why you look like a beginner..


you throw slow over controlled shots, that looks like your just learning,
you hit very sofly eevn if it is a heavier bag, people at my gym hit heavy bags like that and you can physicaly see and hear the whack, and the snap in the punches, they throw hard firm fast shots, whereas you throw slow soft over controlled shots,

i would usally be a bit nicer, but it seems your way to over confident in your ability, dont excuse your self out of things,

if sumone says somting they say it because that is what they see, they wouldnt lie to you for the sake off it, so take it and work to improve,

tbh you look like a beginner and you dont in a way,

its like you know how to throw the shots and do the easy part but your just not improving on that...

post another vid of you, really working the bag throwing hard snappiong shots and fast whipping hooks, move around, head movent,body work head work, effort!

put the umph ...into your punches

[mr tricky]

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look at you...

''No I don't. You know I don't. I know I don't. You are just trying to be an *******''

yes dont try and say that. im saying you look likea beginner just to be an arsehole wtf,


if you read ovet this thread you will see that all of your comments are in defens of your self,

if sumone says, ''mabey its because it is a really heavy bag'' or ''mabey he dose have bad hands''

you say ''thank you'' or ''thats right''

why post a vid if your only going to acsept comments or people sticking up form you,

i say my own opinion

[!! Shawn]

here you go again......

punchdrunk knows what he is talking about,

that is what i meant when i sed wait for some people to comment who know what theyre talking about.


ok il tell you why you look like a beginner..


you throw slow over controlled shots, that looks like your just learning,
you hit very sofly eevn if it is a heavier bag, people at my gym hit heavy bags like that and you can physicaly see and hear the whack, and the snap in the punches, they throw hard firm fast shots, whereas you throw slow soft over controlled shots,

i would usally be a bit nicer, but it seems your way to over confident in your ability, dont excuse your self out of things,

if sumone says somting they say it because that is what they see, they wouldnt lie to you for the sake off it, so take it and work to improve,

tbh you look like a beginner and you dont in a way,

its like you know how to throw the shots and do the easy part but your just not improving on that...

post another vid of you, really working the bag throwing hard snappiong shots and fast whipping hooks, move around, head movent,body work head work, effort!

put the umph ...into your punches

Why do I have a feeling you only watched the first video?

[Darkstranger]

I have to admit, with every response from Shawn I detect an attitude behind it!

If you don't like criticism I wouldn't bother posting videos. I also get the impression you think you're better than you are.

You mentioned previously you know more about boxing than most people on this forum, but there's a difference between knowing what to do, and actually executing it!

[mr tricky]

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having rewatched both your videos ive come up with a few things....


firstly i think it comes down to personal expirience ,

e.g some poeple look at your vid and might see you working hard and might see you very talented because your better than the standard that they see at their own gym. whereas others who go to really hard working top class gym would look down on you.

e.g. at my gym we do circuits with timed rounds, e.g. 2mins on bags ,2mins skipp,2mins shadow box, 2mins bag, we do tun ups and ground work wich is like really hard exericeses of sit ups , push ups , burpees and others that really push yourself to the limit,

when we are on bag a timer would ring and everyone imdiatly begins working hard, hitting moving, upper cuts ,hooks,rights everything, people going to aba finals and other all working really hard and look great, when the timer ends people gasp for air and move on to the nex thing in the circuit,

so if you were at my gym by the looks of thing you would fall behind as you seem to set yourself at a slow relaxed pace ,

like in your second vid, wtf is that guy in the red doing, fair enough if he is just and oldish guy who trains, but dont tell me he will be entering any competition or anyting, he was litrally pushing and stroking the bag, and then you came on and thats what you do aswell,

you push the bag, when you jab their is no snap just ad firm push, you seem to repeat the same move where you circle to the left and jab thee times.

so thats how i see it,
you will see things diffrent to me and others because your not used to the standard others work at,

other may agree,

e.g 1 dacatas would probably say your not working hard enough because he has good body and is a good boxer and wudnt be where he is now working like you do, because he is used to working at good gym

wheras a boxing newbie to the forum may look at you and think wow because he is not used to ur standard.

do you get me, im just trying to expalin why we may have a diffrence in oppion....

[mr tricky]

I have to admit, with every response from Shawn I detect an attitude behind it!

If you don't like criticism I wouldn't bother posting videos. I also get the impression you think you're better than you are.

You mentioned previously you know more about boxing than most people on this forum, but there's a difference between knowing what to do, and actually executing it!

right on the button there...




you see shaun i remeber this guy posted a vid a a while ago and everyone gave him great advice and he took it and thanked everyone, but you seem to disagree with everyone and have your own opionon,

now i would love to see more vids from you and posts but dnt act so big headed

[!! Shawn]

I have to admit, with every response from Shawn I detect an attitude behind it!

If you don't like criticism I wouldn't bother posting videos. I also get the impression you think you're better than you are.

You mentioned previously you know more about boxing than most people on this forum, but there's a difference between knowing what to do, and actually executing it!

No attitude simply irritation that I people are offended when I correct them on bad advice.

Such as throw whipping hooks. I appreciate your input, but that is simply bad advice.

Whipping hooks have no power. Just because a punch makes a loud slapping sound on the bag does not mean it is hard nor effective.

I prefer to throw my punches short, and crisp. My hooks are not whipping arm shots, they are short crisp thudding hooks with leverage and leg power behind them.

Also stuff like people saying I look like a beginner because my technique is to crisp and clean? One guy told me not to use footwork and just wail on the bag. I am open to constructive criticism, and it is starting to get closer and closer to being constructive.