Advice plz

[nedcmk1]

"The third root is planted in the soil of the rich and often outrageous history of professional pugilism. In the era of boxer Joe Louis, it was common to have police on hand during a press conference to “register” the boxer as a deadly weapon. It was just a publicity stunt and carried no more legal weight than receiving the key to the city, which, of course, doesn’t mean you can open any door in town and just walk inside.

In court cases involving violent confrontations, lawyers and judges may advise the jury to bear in mind a person’s martial arts, boxing or military training when evaluating the facts of the case, as in the Matter of the Welfare of DSF, 416 N.W.2d 772 (Minn. App. 1988), where the Minnesota Court of Appeals concluded that the defendant, who had “substantial experience in karate,” was aware enough of the potential of his blows to deliberately break the plaintiff’s jaw. But that is a lot different from legally stating that the person in question is a registered and/or licensed deadly weapon."

[nedcmk1]

Are people trolling this thread? or are they really trying to pass off the lie that hands are "registered"?

[nedcmk1]

Black Belts Having To Register As Deadly Weapons
By Jonathan Maberry


This is one of the oldest American martial arts legends, and there is absolutely no basis or reality in it. First off, there is no department or process within the U.S. government to regulate martial arts, which means there is no instrument in place to identify persons practicing fighting arts, and no governmental method by which practitioners can be evaluated. Such a feat of regulation would cost millions, if not billions, and would be an invasion of civil rights. Actually there is not a country on earth where martial artists are required to register themselves as weapons, deadly or otherwise.


This myth has its roots in two different aspects of mid-20th century history. In post-World War II Japan traditional martial arts were made illegal, and records were kept of those persons who were experienced practitioners of the arts. This was a bit of anti-Japanese backlash following the war and lasted only a few years. It has not been repeated, and it never spread beyond the borders of Japan.


The other root is planted in the soil of the rich and often outrageous history of professional boxing. In the Joe Lewis era (the boxer, not the karate master), it was a common publicity stunt to have police on hand during a press conference to “register” the boxer as a deadly weapon. Understand, this was just a publicity stunt and carried no more legal weight than receiving the Key to the City actually means you can open any door with it and just walk in.


In court cases involving violent confrontations, lawyers and judges may advise the jury to bear in mind a person’s martial arts, boxing, or military combat training when evaluating the facts of the case. For example, in the Matter of the Welfare of D.S.F., 416 N.W.2d 772 (Minn. App. 1988), the Minnesota Court of Appeals concluded that the defendant, who had "substantial experience in karate," was aware enough of the potential of his blows to deliberately break the plaintiff’s jaw. But that is a lot different from legally stating that the person in question is a registered or licensed “deadly weapon”.


Pat Priore, a police chief from Pennsylvania and former SWAT team hand-to-hand instructor, remarked: “I have been in law enforcement for 16 years and I have never observed this practice in my department nor any other department. Occasionally that old bit of nonsense pops up...but we in the law enforcement community regard it as a joke. I’m amazed that so many people still believe it.”


What I find truly disturbing, however, is that I have encountered a number of students who showed me “registration cards” they’d gotten from their instructors. These instructors, mind you, charged them a hefty fee to be registered; and the students who, with good will, believed what their instructors had told them, completely believed that they were now registered as deadly weapons. Not only is this fraud, but it is dishonorable behavior as well.

[SpeedKillz]

"the next day, they found out i boxed and i got in more trouble and they had to take pictures of my hands and palms and wrists and all that **** and register them as lethal weapons....

in america, from what i hear, you get in 10 times the trouble if ur a registered boxer, AM or pro..."


This is an old wives tale. there is no registering your hands as deadly weapons, and your charges are not increased due to training, although it may be used against you to prove criminal intent.

Training will only screw you in a civil suit. They can use it to help their case in recieving cash from you.

i dono why they did it and what they did with it, but they did it. maybe they did it to scare me, maybe not. i dono dude. i aint sayin i had to fill anything out or stand trial to register my hands as lethal weapons, but they took pictures from all angles, and prints of my knuckles and all that ****. maybe it was to scare me, but it happened...at philadelphia 51st district police station...

[rj_ct]

You don't register. Who do you register with?

Contracts do not mention assaults outside the ring. You are bonded and criminal arrests may be regarded as defaulting on your contract due to the fact that you cannot render services promised if incarcerated.

Ammy boxing has nothing against this. You can box with felonies.

i meant when you become a member of usa boxing. i'm just going on what the guys at my gym said, but i have heard this before they told me.

but you might be right. now that i think about it, i can't think of any case i've heard of where a boxer was convicted of assault with a deadly weapon. i just read the scott pemberton was charged with it, but the charge was eventually reduced. still not sure how or if it effect your usa boxing membership.

[A.Jay]

cheers for the advice guiys but for what one guy sed bout feeling he had nothing to prove i know its not good but since ive started boxing i feel like ive got more to prove....... if you get in a fight on the street do you think you should stick with technique