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  • #11
    yeah, if you train, at least in the states they can **** you big time. i know if you're registered you can get charged with assault with a deadly weapon. it's my understanding that even if you aren't registered, but they somehow find out that you train regularly, they can hit you with the same charge.

    as far as i know you're only allowed to neutralize a situation, and once you go over that limit, it's assault with a deadly weapon. so essentially if you knock a dude out with 1 punch in the street, even after he hit you, you can catch a charge.

    i don't know how it effects your boxing in the ring. i think in the contract you sign you agree not to fight in the streets. so don't do it unless you're in physical danger. also, you don't want to get shot.

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    • #12
      if it happens at all make sure there are witneses and they swung first! otherwise just walk away!

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      • #13
        You can punch in self defense....

        As soon as your opponent is on the ground though a boxer is not alowwed to punch them

        Thats what they got mayweather for a few years back at someclub...

        lol so the next time he kicked the guy.

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        • #14
          Don't get in fights, bud. Then you won't have any problems.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Smokin' View Post
            Don't get in fights, bud. Then you won't have any problems.
            just listen to that... easiest way to be safe.

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            • #16
              Me

              i used to fight a hell of a lot im only 15 now almost 16 and ive have about 20 proper fights most of them scrappy and i usally won coz i was good with my hands i was beat sumtimies by older people. i never start them though but if they start it i will always fight. then i started boixng, i felt i had nothing to prove no more there was no reason for me to be fighting even if i was started on. So this lad in the year below me, he kept coming up to me asking me for fight, one day he swung about 5 shots at meand missed i just mad him look ******. couple weeks later i got of the bus and he was there with two other lads who wernt from my school who i had never seen before, all 3 of them began hitting me i box so i knew wht to do i stepped away and dropped 2 of them with few punches each and just hit the other guy a few times. i got really in trouble with poliice because pople filme dit on mobile fones and **** and i looked the bad one even though it was 3 on 1 it got worse wen they found out i boxed. since then ive never fought once and probly never will out side the ring unless i really have 2.

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              • #17
                You will be arrested, you will be sued and most importantly. You will have your licence taken away

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                • #18
                  "the next day, they found out i boxed and i got in more trouble and they had to take pictures of my hands and palms and wrists and all that **** and register them as lethal weapons....

                  in america, from what i hear, you get in 10 times the trouble if ur a registered boxer, AM or pro..."


                  This is an old wives tale. there is no registering your hands as deadly weapons, and your charges are not increased due to training, although it may be used against you to prove criminal intent.

                  Training will only screw you in a civil suit. They can use it to help their case in recieving cash from you.
                  Last edited by nedcmk1; 11-16-2007, 03:32 PM.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by rj_ct View Post
                    yeah, if you train, at least in the states they can **** you big time. i know if you're registered you can get charged with assault with a deadly weapon. it's my understanding that even if you aren't registered, but they somehow find out that you train regularly, they can hit you with the same charge.

                    as far as i know you're only allowed to neutralize a situation, and once you go over that limit, it's assault with a deadly weapon. so essentially if you knock a dude out with 1 punch in the street, even after he hit you, you can catch a charge.

                    i don't know how it effects your boxing in the ring. i think in the contract you sign you agree not to fight in the streets. so don't do it unless you're in physical danger. also, you don't want to get shot.


                    You don't register. Who do you register with?

                    Contracts do not mention assaults outside the ring. You are bonded and criminal arrests may be regarded as defaulting on your contract due to the fact that you cannot render services promised if incarcerated.

                    Ammy boxing has nothing against this. You can box with felonies.

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                    • #20
                      Debunked: Boxers are required to register their hands as "lethal weapons."

                      Research has failed to reveal any statutory, regulatory or other requirement that boxers -- or anyone skilled in martial arts -- "register" their hands or any other body part as "lethal weapons" in the U.S., UKoGBaNI, Canada, or any other common law nation. However, a criminal defendant's experience in boxing, karate, or other forms of hand-to-hand combat may be relevant to determining various legal issues.

                      First, in the United States at least, the question of whether hands (or other body parts) of a boxer, martial artist or any other person even qualifies as a "deadly" or "lethal" weapon depends largely upon how "deadly weapon," "lethal weapon," or "deadly force" is defined (usually by statute, which is then interpreted by the courts). _See,_ _e.g.,_ Vitauts M. Gulbis, "Parts of the Human Body, Other Than Feet, as Deadly or Dangerous Weapons for Purposes of Statutes Aggravating Offenses Such as Assault and Robbery," 8 A.L.R.4th 1268 (1981 and supplements); Christpher Vaeth, "Kicking as Aggravated Assault, or Assault With Dangerous or Deadly Weapon," 19 A.L.R.5th 823 (1995 and supplements). Most statutes have been interpreted to require an object external to the human body before a "deadly weapon" element can be met. For example, in _Minnesota v. Bastin_, 572 N.W.2d 281 (Minn. 1997), the Minnesota Supreme Court overruled the trial court's conclusion that the left fist of the defendant, a former licensed professional prize fighter, was a "deadly weapon."

                      Some courts in the United States have concluded, however, that a criminal defendant's experience in boxing or martial arts should be considered when deciding whether s/he possessed a required intent to cause harm. For instance, in _Trujillo v. State_, 750 P.2d 1334 (Wyo. 1988), the Wyoming Supreme Court found that there was sufficient evidence to support the defendant's conviction for aggravated assault after he punched someone in the head. His history as a trained boxer was one bit of evidence supporting the jury's findings on his mental state. Likewise, in _In the Matter of the Welfare of D.S.F._, 416 N.W.2d 772 (Minn. App. 1988), the Minnesota Court of Appeals held that there was sufficient evidence to conclude that the actions of the defendant, who had "substantial experience in karate," were sufficient to demonstrate his knowledge that he was hitting the victim with sufficient force to break the victim's jaw.

                      Similarly, a criminal defendant's boxing or martial arts experience may be relevant to determining the validity of a self-defense claim. For instance, in _Idaho v. Babbit_, 120 Idaho 337, 815 P.2d 1077 (Idaho App. 1991), the defendant shot the victim and claimed self-defense. The trial court admitted evidence regarding the defendant's past training and experience as a boxer, concluding that it was relevant to a determination of whether the defendant truly believed it was necessary to shoot the victim in order to protect himself and others. The Idaho Court of Appeals affirmed.

                      Documented: A criminal defendant's experience in boxing or the martial arts may be relevant to deciding whether the elements of a criminal offense have been proven.

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