Strength Vs Speed And Conditioning

[Dorian]

too bad he(tyson) didn't have a brain.. he could've been much better

[fraidycat]

The Way I Was Looking At It Was If Somebody Can Knock Out Everybody In Their Weight Class In Less Than One Round Through Technique And Physical Power And Can Take Any Blows Their Opponents Give Out Out (good Defense Or Not)why Would They Want To Condition Except For Aesthetic Reasons

You play too many video games. You can't condition your body to "take any blows their opponents dish out." You don't have a Life Meter at the bottom of your screen that you can increase by lifting weights. Similarly, you can't become a one-punch wonder by becoming insanely strong. (Increasing your Power Meter?) If you could do either of these things, heavyweight titles would be held by insane Swiss guys who pull freight trains with their teeth.

Boxing is not about brute force. It's about control, coordination, and endless Goddamn pain, sweat, and hard work. There is no -- NO -- way around that. A skilled boxer has more in common with a male ballet danser than he does with a bodybuilder or some "hard, yo" street punk. Put away your Xbox and get your ass in training.

[Southpaw16]

Hahahaha. A lot of Tyson's fights did go 2 rounds or less. Son, if you don't work on your conditioning your gonna be amazed at how difficult it will be to go those 2 rounds.

[Verstyle]

Hahahaha. A lot of Tyson's fights did go 2 rounds or less. Son, if you don't work on your conditioning your gonna be amazed at how difficult it will be to go those 2 rounds.

Exactly.Power is good,but once you meet that person that can take a shot,you're ****ed.

[fraidycat]

Hahahaha. A lot of Tyson's fights did go 2 rounds or less. Son, if you don't work on your conditioning your gonna be amazed at how difficult it will be to go those 2 rounds.

Amen. To say nothing of the fact that if he can't muster the determination to haul his lazy ass out of bed in the dark to put in his 4 miles every morning, where's he gonna get the resolve to keep going when he's seeing electric purple cheetos and choking on his own blood?

[sllewe]

As said by fraidycat

MY ADVICE TO THOSE CONTEMPLATING TAKING UP BOXING:
Run as hard as you can until you puke, then run as hard as you can home,
do 50 pushups on your knuckles, and then ram your head through the wall.
That's what a good day in the gym feels like.
If you wake up the next morning wanting to do it again, this is your sport.

[fraidycat]

Thanks, sllewe.

These ****in' guys watch too much anime, or they do a couple rounds of backyard boxing -- or worse, both -- and suddenly they're gonna be the next world champion. Boxing gyms stay in business because of these guys -- most of them pay for a month and show up twice -- so I guess they're a blessing. But they have no freakin' clue how hard this game is.

They see the belts and the ring girls and the cool demeanors of the up-and-comers, but they have no concept of what it takes to show up day after day, week in and week out, year in and year out, knowing it's going to hurt every time. That it's going to get harder every time -- the better shape you're in, the harder you have to train? I think most people can't even comprehend it.

[Darkstranger]

I think this young fella just needs a reality check! Just one round of sparring and he'll begin to realise you don't play with boxing, you have to respect the art!

Bro, you might think we're all being harsh, but we've all seen it before. Guys who walk in the gym thinking they can handle the sport because they've had a few street fights that lasted all of 15 seconds each. It's easy winning a street fight, just kick em in the balls, or pick up a brick and smash em over the head or glass them with a broken bottle or pick up a metal pole or some ****. Maybe your homie comes in with a fly kick on the blindside or summat!

Now imagine facing the same opponent, in a 16x16 ring, with gloves on. You can't kick, you can't headbutt, you can't pick up a metal pole, your homies can't jump in when you're losing, you can't aim for the balls, you can't throw the person to the ground and you can't hit behind the head. You can't sucker punch them, they're alert and their defense is tight. They've also trained for months just as hard if not harder than you. And they're roughly the same size and weight as you. Now try beating them!

I've seen guys lose street fights because they tripped up on a dodgy pavement slab then proceeded to get their head kicked in! Trust me it takes a whole lot more skill and is much harder beating someone within a rule set. Remember that before you start boasting about street fights.

Anyways get your ass to the gym and if you're there in 6 months time everything people have said on this thread will make perfect sense.

[nedcmk1]

Mike Tyson is not an example of what you are talking about...

Yes he cleared many guys out early, but he also was taken the distance/late rounds by James Tillis, Mitch Green, Jose Ribalta, James Smith, and Tony Tucker all in the 80's.

Your point is moot. If you dont have the heart for conditiong, then you should pick something else. It's all about mental toughness which you build doing your conditions, working through the boredom and pain.

[Kayo]

I think this young fella just needs a reality check! Just one round of sparring and he'll begin to realise you don't play with boxing, you have to respect the art!

Bro, you might think we're all being harsh, but we've all seen it before. Guys who walk in the gym thinking they can handle the sport because they've had a few street fights that lasted all of 15 seconds each. It's easy winning a street fight, just kick em in the balls, or pick up a brick and smash em over the head or glass them with a broken bottle or pick up a metal pole or some ****. Maybe your homie comes in with a fly kick on the blindside or summat!

Now imagine facing the same opponent, in a 16x16 ring, with gloves on. You can't kick, you can't headbutt, you can't pick up a metal pole, your homies can't jump in when you're losing, you can't aim for the balls, you can't throw the person to the ground and you can't hit behind the head. You can't sucker punch them, they're alert and their defense is tight. They've also trained for months just as hard if not harder than you. And they're roughly the same size and weight as you. Now try beating them!

I've seen guys lose street fights because they tripped up on a dodgy pavement slab then proceeded to get their head kicked in! Trust me it takes a whole lot more skill and is much harder beating someone within a rule set. Remember that before you start boasting about street fights.

Anyways get your ass to the gym and if you're there in 6 months time everything people have said on this thread will make perfect sense.

good post. cept if you kickbox your allowed to kick