Strength Vs Speed And Conditioning

[eliali]

If I Put All My Effort Into Weights And Calesthinics To Become Something Like A Miniature Mike Tyson (power And Build)(for Lightweight To Welterweight Fighting Class) Will I Even Need Running Or Rope Jumping

[GrizzleBoy]

Thats a pretty lazy way of looking at it on top of being not very smart. Conditioning is 10 times more important han strength. If you can only punch for two rounds because you didnt condition your body to go more than that do you think youll be winning fights?

[DA1CATAS]

conditioning is Priority...Skill automatically comes after. Unless you just suck.

[fraidycat]

If I Put All My Effort Into Weights And Calesthinics To Become Something Like A Miniature Mike Tyson (power And Build)(for Lightweight To Welterweight Fighting Class) Will I Even Need Running Or Rope Jumping

Grizz is right.

Further, Skipping rope is more than conditioning; it works your footwork, balance, and coordination. Have you ever watched a professional boxer skip rope? Check it out on YouTube. It'll blow your mind. And FWIW, I bet Tyson could've run your ass into the ground.

Physical conditioning is the EASY part of boxing. The conditioning you have to endure to get into shape to box competitively -- that includes getting up at 4 AM to run everyday, and skipping rope even though you hate it and suck at it (you'll get better) -- gives you the mental and psychological strength to handle yourself in the ring when it comes time to learn to put it all together.

It's the **** you have to do once you're IN shape, that's the hard part. If you're already planning shortcuts toward your conditioning, you'll be screwed when it comes time to learn how to really fight. Because fighting smart takes even more discipline and heart than conditioning does.

[eliali]

The Way I Was Looking At It Was If Somebody Can Knock Out Everybody In Their Weight Class In Less Than One Round Through Technique And Physical Power And Can Take Any Blows Their Opponents Give Out Out (good Defense Or Not)why Would They Want To Condition Except For Aesthetic Reasons

[Verstyle]

Is this thread a joke? Seriously.

[eliali]

No Its Nota Joke, You Remember When Tyson Was Coming Through The Ranks, Most Of The Time His Fights Went 2 Rounds At The Most, So I Wanted To Know Why Would Did He Condition So Much And Not Focus More On His Best Traits (punching And Increasing Body Density For Defense-ie Its Kinda Hard To Punch Through A Brick Wall)

[Verstyle]

No Its Nota Joke, You Remember When Tyson Was Coming Through The Ranks, Most Of The Time His Fights Went 2 Rounds At The Most, So I Wanted To Know Why Would Did He Condition So Much And Not Focus More On His Best Traits (punching And Increasing Body Density For Defense-ie Its Kinda Hard To Punch Through A Brick Wall)

You condition alot so you can keep up that already good punching power threw out rounds. You're not going to knockout all the boxers you face. The bigger you are the slower you get.Thats why he always shed weight when he fought.I think he walked around at 230lbs in his prime,and fought at around 217lbs.

[Verstyle]

If I Put All My Effort Into Weights And Calesthinics To Become Something Like A Miniature Mike Tyson (power And Build)(for Lightweight To Welterweight Fighting Class) Will I Even Need Running Or Rope Jumping

Tysons power is NATURAL, if everyone thought that doing weights and calisthenics would get you to be a Lil Tyson then everyone would be doing it! Tyson added to his already natural power by doing other things.He even said he mostly just did the heavybag for his power in his prime.

[sllewe]

The Way I Was Looking At It Was If Somebody Can Knock Out Everybody In Their Weight Class In Less Than One Round Through Technique And Physical Power

Because that is never going to happen...I mean come on...

Even if you are a power house like Tyson you are always going to get fighters that can stand up to you, and if you cant keep your game up in the later rounds then why even waste your time...

Conditioning is a must, its a *****, but there is no way around it.