SUPER HARDCORE TRAINING 4 boxing, MMA, etc

[yrrej]

Strong is good, everything else being equal. But guys spend hours in the gym everyday to achieve this kind of strength. They don't have enough energy left to do anything else unless they are on steroids. At the highest levels of martial arts and boxing, you see some of these exercises, e.g. car pushing, tire hitting, push-ups, etc., but not such an emphasis on extreme strength. Learning good leverage and technique is more important for a professional in my opinion. I remember the build-up to a fight between a former NCAA wrestling champ who could press 400 pounds in a mixed martial arts contest with Carlos Gracie, Jr. Gracie, who didn't look like he could press 200 pounds, mounted the guy who, in spite of his incredible strength, couldn't budge Gracie an inch and quickly lost. But I think you already know this, Iceman....

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

But I think you already know this, Iceman....

Yea. on that end I always say.....despite your great strength, speed, weight lifiting ability etc etc...you still have to have SKILLS

[shawn_]

Its true, actual strength and punching power dont really correlate well. Power comes from technique. Technique, however, requires freshness. When you get tired, you get sloppy.

Strength is also helpful in clinches and in fighting.

[j]

At the highest levels of martial arts and boxing, you see some of these exercises, e.g. car pushing, tire hitting, push-ups, etc., but not such an emphasis on extreme strength. Learning good leverage and technique is more important for a professional in my opinion. I remember the build-up to a fight between a former NCAA wrestling champ who could press 400 pounds in a mixed martial arts contest with Carlos Gracie, Jr. Gracie, who didn't look like he could press 200 pounds, mounted the guy who, in spite of his incredible strength, couldn't budge Gracie an inch and quickly lost. But I think you already know this, Iceman....

martial artists, generally, will do more weightlifting type exercises when they are younger. as they get older, the hard physical exercise is not emphasized other than staying generally fit. health maintenance exercises are given considerable attention. the focus shifts to becoming efficient, "soft", and increasingly coordinated on levels even the top athletes have no idea about. i have met and learned from some of the best, so i have confirmed that if you know what you're doing, you will get better as you age. until you've seen a 55 year old who moves with the vigor a teenager, you probably won't believe it's possible.

but i'm getting off track here. point is, you can workout like a madman when you're young, but then you eventually have to switch your focus unless you want your body to break down and be injured when you get older than 35. food for thought i guess.

[BrooklynBomber]

martial artists, generally, will do more weightlifting type exercises when they are younger. as they get older, the hard physical exercise is not emphasized other than staying generally fit. health maintenance exercises are given considerable attention. the focus shifts to becoming efficient, "soft", and increasingly coordinated on levels even the top athletes have no idea about. i have met and learned from some of the best, so i have confirmed that if you know what you're doing, you will get better as you age. until you've seen a 55 year old who moves with the vigor a teenager, you probably won't believe it's possible.

but i'm getting off track here. point is, you can workout like a madman when you're young, but then you eventually have to switch your focus unless you want your body to break down and be injured when you get older than 35. food for thought i guess.

I see what you talking about, I seen older guys who were not nearly is strong or quick, but they were always at the right place, at the right angle and at the right time to beat their opponents.

[phallus]

martial artists, generally, will do more weightlifting type exercises when they are younger. as they get older, the hard physical exercise is not emphasized other than staying generally fit. health maintenance exercises are given considerable attention. the focus shifts to becoming efficient, "soft", and increasingly coordinated on levels even the top athletes have no idea about. i have met and learned from some of the best, so i have confirmed that if you know what you're doing, you will get better as you age. until you've seen a 55 year old who moves with the vigor a teenager, you probably won't believe it's possible.

but i'm getting off track here. point is, you can workout like a madman when you're young, but then you eventually have to switch your focus unless you want your body to break down and be injured when you get older than 35. food for thought i guess.

i've met a couple of 50 year old that shamed guys half their age. i'd like to be like that.

rossboxing rules, i'm starting to get into his workouts, his stuff is da ****. ross understands that " when u train in hell, u see it's not such a bad place " - jens pulver

[KingDosia]

Damn If I had a Dollar for every guy I have referred to Ross for training I'd be a Rich man. And to see PunchDrunk approves of the workout cements it for me. I think a lot of coaches don't put forth the effort to school their kids on basic strength and endurance training, It's sad to see
Good post Iceman,