Anyone Seriously Trying TO BOX? I mean Forreal?

[PunchDrunk]

its actually kinda horrible but here it goes. Who ever lands more punches.

Doesn't matter if you knocked the guy down 7 times that only 7 points.

Style doesn't really work because the judges just want you to land. I'd drop one of my nice gems.

AMS is all about accuracy. Unless you ko the guy accuracy wins the fights.

You can throw slaps all night with no power and get knocked down 40 times. but if you landed 2 more punches you win.


30 knock downs = 30 landed punches.




I view it as por.. it should be like Pro fights. but it isn't. I dont like this olympic style system. thats why fast guys like jones mayweather and sugar ray can dominate anyone with speed in the ams. Power didnt matter, Unless it was K.O. power.

I disagree heartily.
First of all, three 8 counts in a round, or four in the whole fight, you're outta there, so what you're saying is incorrect.
Second, there's a tendency that the fighter going forward or being most active gets more points. Initiative wins fights in the ams, as it well should, since fights are so short.
Third, the guys you just mentioned dominated IN THE PRO'S. What you have to understand is that back when Sugar Ray and RJJ fought amateur, the scoring and length of the fights were completely different from now. In fact they changed it BECAUSE of RJJ getting cheated at the Olympics in Seoul. Anyway, bringing those two gyus up as examples of modern AM boxing is pointless, since they didn't fight under the modern system, so we'll never know if they could have been succesful.
Mayweather did get a bronze at the Olympics, but I'd hardly call that "dominating"... I doubt he could win a gold medal next year either, with the (anti boxing) style he's been so succesful with in the pro's, and thank God for that!

Bodyshots count. Especially long straight punches to the body are rewarded by the judges, but also long uppercuts to the midsection, which the Cubans, for instance, use with great success.

What doesn't seem to count for much are jabs. I've just been to the Ahmet Cömert Tournament in Turkey, where app. 50% of the top ams in the world competed, and this was one punch that didn't score many points throughout the tournament. A shame...

[Nacho_Analstain]

ah right ... cool

[Irish0910]

I know I'm gonna hear **** but I was actually looking to go pro in MMA then I sparred a boxer and got my ass whipped. Now I've been hooked on boxing but just found out I got orders to move to Guam so I've been boxing whenever I can and gonna look for a gym when I get to Guam. I've been focusing on my fitness for now so I'll be it the best shape possible when I get there and start going to a gym.

[DA1CATAS]

I disagree heartily.
First of all, three 8 counts in a round, or four in the whole fight, you're outta there, so what you're saying is incorrect.
Second, there's a tendency that the fighter going forward or being most active gets more points. Initiative wins fights in the ams, as it well should, since fights are so short.
Third, the guys you just mentioned dominated IN THE PRO'S. What you have to understand is that back when Sugar Ray and RJJ fought amateur, the scoring and length of the fights were completely different from now. In fact they changed it BECAUSE of RJJ getting cheated at the Olympics in Seoul. Anyway, bringing those two gyus up as examples of modern AM boxing is pointless, since they didn't fight under the modern system, so we'll never know if they could have been succesful.
Mayweather did get a bronze at the Olympics, but I'd hardly call that "dominating"... I doubt he could win a gold medal next year either, with the (anti boxing) style he's been so succesful with in the pro's, and thank God for that!

Bodyshots count. Especially long straight punches to the body are rewarded by the judges, but also long uppercuts to the midsection, which the Cubans, for instance, use with great success.

What doesn't seem to count for much are jabs. I've just been to the Ahmet Cömert Tournament in Turkey, where app. 50% of the top ams in the world competed, and this was one punch that didn't score many points throughout the tournament. A shame...

Well I was stating the same but who ever lands more wins.. i didnt actually mean getting knocked down 30 times... that'd be insane... I was pointing out that one knock down is just the same as 1 point which I totally disagree with in the AM's but oh well

I didnt touch body shots.. I hardly se them unless someones on ropes... mostly swinging and landing shots.


Yea I shouldn't have said dominating seeing as they didnt get gold.. But winning a medal is what I was kinda pointing at

[DoctorKillJoy]

I'm serious about it. Actually these days boxing is pretty much all i think about and i'm working hard. Apart from one obvious exception i can't think of any feeling that really even comes close to getting in the ring and waiting for the bell to start the first round. And thats just sparring... I will definitely be doing at least some amateur fights before I'm done.

[judge_jab]

i really wanna be the best in the world! for a few years has been incorporating boxing into the lessons and last year i decided i just wanna box, i am a HUGE fan and am about to start training 4 times a week for 2 hours at a gym i have only been able to go on sunday every two weeks so far because of exams but they end next month!

I already train 3-4 hours a day, with conditioning , heavy bag etc skill work, skipping the usual and really want to be the best! I seem to be doing great in sparring and have the determination to be the best! I am 16 so do you think that's a bit late to start and want to be a great??????

all i think about is boxing!!!!!!!

[Young Legend]

I've played baseball since I started walking pretty much. I loved the sport. My high school coach killed my passion for the sport. I started really getting into boxing like 2 years ago. Just watching any fight I could. Now this year, I quit baseball, Im a junior in highschool, and I start going to a gym in June. I can't wait.

This summer Iam working my ass off... my goals are to obviously have some AM fights then hopefully go pro. It's a stretch, but Im not going to quit trying until there is no possible chance of that happening.

[Southpaw16]

its actually kinda horrible but here it goes. Who ever lands more punches.

Doesn't matter if you knocked the guy down 7 times that only 7 points.

Style doesn't really work because the judges just want you to land. I'd drop one of my nice gems.

AMS is all about accuracy. Unless you ko the guy accuracy wins the fights.

You can throw slaps all night with no power and get knocked down 40 times. but if you landed 2 more punches you win.


30 knock downs = 30 landed punches.




I view it as por.. it should be like Pro fights. but it isn't. I dont like this olympic style system. thats why fast guys like jones mayweather and sugar ray can dominate anyone with speed in the ams. Power didnt matter, Unless it was K.O. power.

OK, power isn't as important in the amateurs as in the pros. But to say that power doesn't matter is very false.

When you crack a guy with a good power shot, it does a lot in terms of taking the guys confidence away, making him hesitant, getting him dazed so you can follow up with a bunch more scoring blows, intimidating him, knocking him off balance so he becomes vulnerable to more punches... etc. Knockdowns don't officially count, but power does count in many ways.

Also in terms of scoring blows, even though every clean landing shot is technically the same amount of points, the judges will always be able to see a hard punch landing more easily because of the way they will snap an opponent's head around and make noise, so a power punch is more likely to be scored.

Another point I would like to bring up is that the scoring in most fights in the US is different than olympic style scoring. Olympic style scoring is done with computers, US scoring is done with clickers. On the clickers there are generally a lot more punches that count. I'm not going to go into too much details but I would encourage any amateur boxer to try to research this. If people can't find any research then I or another experienced boxer would be happy to make a more detailed thread explaining it.

Myself I've had about 30 fights, and I am still learning every single fight. I want to go as far as I can in the sport, and I probably want to turn pro sometime within the next year. I don't know if I'll ever be able to make a living off of it but I love to box and take it very seriously.

[spinksjinx]

I box(ed) amateur got offered a fight to go pro locally but turned it down because I was to be the sacrificial lamb so to speak...I injured my knee pretty bad a while ago. But 2 months ago I got back into the gym to get my swagger back and am looking to enter an amateur tournament this upcoming July.

MMA pro is a pretty dumb choice without having sponsors lined up. Not to mention MMA fighters tend to linger in the amateurs way longer than am boxers and rightfully so...Its a lot more competitive that route. Going pro in MMA is to much risk IMO. you really have to love what you do to be in it if you want it as a full time job..The pay is garbage...But we dont do it for the money right!

[Darkstranger]

Count me in!

I'm looking to push myself as far as I can go in the sport, I've always loved the sport and tried to observe the technical aspects of the sport. I've only been boxing for 4 months now and coaches really give me the drive to keep up the hardwork. So far they've been impressed and they were really enthusiastic and excited when I first walked in the gym as I'm 6'3" and a natural super heavyweight with heavyhands. The enthusiasm of the coaches rubs off on me which makes me want to progress even further in the sport. I now eat and sleep boxing!!! Hopefully I'll be posting video's over the next few months so I can get some good strong criticism from the boxingscene family!