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  • #81
    Originally posted by EC_Raider_07 View Post
    The motion of the biceps is a pulling motion. So, biceps help with jabs......
    WTF !?

    do you pull when you throw a job ?

    or do you extend ? thereby using the tricep muscle.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by cyberthugpatrol View Post
      WTF !?

      do you pull when you throw a job ?

      or do you extend ? thereby using the tricep muscle.
      To be fair you are both right in some aspect, both muscles are used in the extension. Its a misconception that muscles are one directional, just push against a wall with your fist, you'll feel the bi, tri, pec, delts and lats compress so.....

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      • #83
        Originally posted by Bucktown Beast View Post
        Uhh...Do you know anyone that can bench 600 pounds? Probably not. Bottle or not. Its an impressive feat for a 21 year old dude any way you look at it. I know people that juice...one of my boys does actually. Hes a 250 pound brick house...bigger and wider than the dude who benched 600lbs. And the most I seen him do was 350 three times.

        Most top bodybuilders can't bench 600 pounds and they stick themselves with **** that could make you fly. I know he wasn't doin no major league ****...He was a thick dude with some mass on him and was actually a bit on the small side for an offensive lineman. You'd just look at him and say, oh hes a pretty big dude but he was no Bob Sapp. If he took anything, probably some Deca like alot football players used to do. And that aint makin you throw up 6 plates.

        Repping and maxing are two differet things...slow twitch vs fast twitch muscles. He genetically posessed the ability or potential to bench that much.
        Actually working out in a steroid driven school and two different gyms, I know quite a few people who can bench in the 550-650 range and it's no surprise when I meet another one. The highest I know someone can bench without juice is 515lbs and that's with the shirt on, and he is pretty damn big.

        Who said anything about repping?

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        • #84
          Originally posted by EC_Raider_07 View Post
          The motion of the biceps is a pulling motion. So, biceps help with jabs. However, biceps have nothing to do with punching power. Punching power comes from making your fist go as fast as it can as hard as it can, and hitting in the right spot. Technique is what gives you punching power.
          I'll tell you right now that biceps are the MOST strained and affected muscle from boxing/sparring. Its involved in every punch...especially when you unknowingly overextend, then you can really strain it.

          I have felt like my biceps were torn in half after hard sparring...seriously, my bis have gotten more sore than any muscle.

          For me, its shoulders/rear delts and bis that I feel the most after sparring. All the other body parts that may get a little sore are secondary. Never once have I felt it in my chest or tris...

          Originally posted by dario View Post
          Actually working out in a steroid driven school and two different gyms, I know quite a few people who can bench in the 550-650 range and it's no surprise when I meet another one. The highest I know someone can bench without juice is 515lbs and that's with the shirt on, and he is pretty damn big.

          Who said anything about repping?
          ****, you know a few people that bench 550-650?? I only knew one person, and it was that kid I am talkin about...Thats major weight. Must be some monsters at your school. Once in my life I would like to be able to put up 6 plates and have the entire gym ooh and ahh at me.

          515 with the bench shirt on = probably about 400 raw. Plus considering I'm sure he weighed a whole lot, thats more than believable.
          Last edited by Bucktown Beast; 03-12-2007, 10:04 AM.

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          • #85
            Haha, I'm so weak. I'm 6'1" 168lbs and I started benching a week ago. I'm up to a whopping 60kg (130lbs) so far on a 3*8.

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            • #86
              Muscles ARE one directional. They always pull, they cant push.

              Therefore when you throw a punch the vital muscle in the arm is the tricep, as it extends the arm.

              You dont punch by pulling your arm back do you?

              Both muscles are vital, however the tricep is the muscle thats actually resposible for extending the arm.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by sfdmalex View Post
                Muscles ARE one directional. They always pull, they cant push.

                Therefore when you throw a punch the vital muscle in the arm is the tricep, as it extends the arm.

                You dont punch by pulling your arm back do you?

                Both muscles are vital, however the tricep is the muscle thats actually resposible for extending the arm.
                Have you ever boxed? While what you are saying is true that the tricep extends the arm, thats only ONE way...it is not used when throwing punches. When you throw a hook you actually are are doing more of a pulling action and your bicep is the main muscle used, same for when you throw an uppercut. Tricep use is practically non existent when throwin punches.

                Just picture ****ing a nail with a hammer, in that motion the tricep is the main muscle being used...but that action is not used in boxing. An uppercut is like curling a dumbell and a hook is like doing cable pulley curls. A side karate chop to the neck would be using the tricep...but in boxing punches are thrown the other way, hence using the bicep.

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                • #88
                  Tricep non existant in throwing punches?

                  I'm not even going to waist my time with a response.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by sfdmalex View Post
                    Tricep non existant in throwing punches?

                    I'm not even going to waist my time with a response.
                    Uh...ok don't waste your time. I was hoping you humored me. I guess the answer to if you ever boxed is "no".

                    Every muscle in your arm is USED to some extent obviously...but the tricep is not a main factor in throwing punches whatsoever. When your fist lands on a target its affecting the front part of your arm, not the back...your wrist, forearms and biceps are taking the brunt of it. Go throw some hooks on a heavybag for an hour and see what is sore tomorrow...sure as hell aint gonna be your triceps.

                    Look at what weightlifting exercises you do to work out your triceps and see if that looks like anything close to what your arms would be doing in a punching motion.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by me2007 View Post
                      im 5 feet 2, 300 lbs and can bench 100lbs
                      lol ..........

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