Best protein suppliments?

[Banderivets]

Dude, it's useless arguing.

In the summer, when all I did was play ball and work out, having 150g of protein a day made me grow like a turkey on growth hormones. I'm 6'1" 210lb now. Taking double the amount of protein would do **** all but hurt my kidneys.

If I wanted to maintan muscle mass and stay as active I'd be fine with a much lesser amount.


Honestly I dont give a **** what those articles say. I studied the subject, and the human body is by far the source of MOST misconceptions in the world. New studies come out every day, proving wrong the **** of the last 20 year.

I will pick a university study over some article 100% of the time.

And another reason to there being no point in arguing is because I see guys supplimenting like mad, with all the creative/protein this that bull**** and having **** all results...Placebo more then anything. It's a multi billion dollar industry, no **** they are going to pay so someone releases articles saying how creatine etc is going to magicaly make you grow.

The bottom line is that suppliments such as creatine make a difference only on high leves, when you need to make that last lift that will make a tiny differnce in your game. Not if your a guy 160lb and want to gain 20lb of muscle.

And then there are guys who just work out hard, eat properly and gain muscle. Without all that bull****.

[BrooklynBomber]

Hmmm, I went from 135 in december of 2005 to 162 in February of 2007(I was 165, but I started cutting up already) With the right supplemetns, correct diet and good training routine. Supplements helped me a lot since I was always a hard gainer. Good vitamins, fish oil and good proteins are what helped me a lot.
Also about univercity studies, most of them are sponsored by one or another bodybuilding company and are also very biased, you gotta try a million things before you find one thing that works for you. If only eating food and certain sport routines helped you gain weight and size, then great for you.

[phallus]

Hmmm, I went from 135 in december of 2005 to 162 in February of 2007(I was 165, but I started cutting up already) With the right supplemetns, correct diet and good training routine. Supplements helped me a lot since I was always a hard gainer. Good vitamins, fish oil and good proteins are what helped me a lot.
Also about univercity studies, most of them are sponsored by one or another bodybuilding company and are also very biased, you gotta try a million things before you find one thing that works for you. If only eating food and certain sport routines helped you gain weight and size, then great for you.

a frat boi protein shake once a day can do wonders

[Trick]

I donno man, I work in university labs, and never have I seen any of my peers approached by some company to be bribed or whatever. There are REALLY strict rules about that. Basically a zero tolerance policy in any decent university. Companies (gatorade for example) have their own scientists. There are research companies. I can understand if you wouldn't trust them, especially the former, but universities aren't under any influence. And that "stat" was from a cafeteria, not a doctor. Anyone stressing their muscles a lot needs a lot of protein. Some more than others, but especially if you want those fibers to come back bigger, you need that extra protein. I'm not gonna start some ******ed internet argument, but I'd recommend you double check your facts man. Any serious athlete cannot have a casual diet

Peace,
Trick

[Trick]

O, and university studies ARE articles man. Trust me, I've written enough to know. And when you read them, they can read just like "normal" articles. If you trust university articles so much (which you should), then I recommend looking a few up. PubMed is a great database which a lot of my peers use. I'd give it a look if you're looking for info.

[dario]

Dude, it's useless arguing.

In the summer, when all I did was play ball and work out, having 150g of protein a day made me grow like a turkey on growth hormones. I'm 6'1" 210lb now. Taking double the amount of protein would do **** all but hurt my kidneys.

If I wanted to maintan muscle mass and stay as active I'd be fine with a much lesser amount.


Honestly I dont give a **** what those articles say. I studied the subject, and the human body is by far the source of MOST misconceptions in the world. New studies come out every day, proving wrong the **** of the last 20 year.

I will pick a university study over some article 100% of the time.

And another reason to there being no point in arguing is because I see guys supplimenting like mad, with all the creative/protein this that bull**** and having **** all results...Placebo more then anything. It's a multi billion dollar industry, no **** they are going to pay so someone releases articles saying how creatine etc is going to magicaly make you grow.

The bottom line is that suppliments such as creatine make a difference only on high leves, when you need to make that last lift that will make a tiny differnce in your game. Not if your a guy 160lb and want to gain 20lb of muscle.

And then there are guys who just work out hard, eat properly and gain muscle. Without all that bull****.

All I got to say is I wonder why the men who eat more protein come out bigger and stronger than the ones who don't. And I try to get at least 200g of protein a day (more on my cheat days) and I never had a problem with my kidney (I don't think I ever had).

To start off, you do know that your muscles are made up of protein and water? Every time you lift or exercise your muscles tear down. If you don't aim for at least 30g of protein per meal than you'll never get the strength and size gains you can potentially get. And protein helps more than just repairing muscle breakdowns, it increases protein synthesis (so you can absorb even more protein), positive nitrogen balance, and prevents and fights catabolism. Protein is the building block of any muscle gains. I don't how yall lift weights, but I know if I didn't get the protein I need included with my training routine, I would just lose muscle from catabolism. And to use those proteins at full potential, you're going to need eat lots of carbs. Unless you're barely eating any carbs, than you're kidneys should not hurt because of protein.

The more you lift weights and engage in rigorous physical activity, the more protein and carbs you'll need; plain and simple. The average bodybuilder consumes around 300-500g of protein per day. I'd expect a boxer to get at least half of that if they want to get the full strength gains from their training.

If you still don't believe me, get a work-out partner that is exactly as strong as you. Work out together with him for 1-3 months with the same routine and you consume less than your "massive amount of 100g of protein" and let your friend consume 150-200g of protein and see who gets stronger and bigger in the given time.