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  • #31
    Originally posted by Trick View Post
    Has it now?

    Ya, all those weights really slowed Roy Jones down...
    he also goit old!

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    • #32
      Originally posted by kingdosia View Post
      Potatoes you are a twisted bastard it wouldnt be right for me to argue with you for you know nothing of which you speak. You have won all claim to the I am full of **** hall of fame. There is no proof to any of your claims no evidence outside your opinion. Nothing yet you keep making noise. An idiot that knows not how to quit. Its like you are not even in the conversation. Off in some other world. The part I love is when you have been tagged with the truth you only lablel the owner of that statement as a nerdy little boy or the keyboard warrior. What a goof. 13 years my friend 13 yeads of hard work dedication living eating and sleeping nothing but boxing. I know the legonds you.Hold so highly. Yes in their time they were great. You can't say thay they are any better than people today. Just as I can't say they are worse.
      I can say the human body is better understood today. Every sport is seeing records fall and athletes do amazing things. Its beautiful like that there is no ceiling. Boxing is not any different. Understand what you are arguing is that there is only one way. That is complete crap. Literally. Training for this sport is an individualized phenomenon. The goal gain speed, strength, stanima.
      Tell me where a boxer would be wrong by enhancing and balancing those three. You can't because the very basis of what makes a fighter a fighter is those three key elements paired with his brain. The dinosaurs are no longer around for a reason. EVOLUTION.

      i agree with you, to a poiunt.

      Most hweavys nowasday use weights too much. they get big and strong but they are unable to kleep their workrate up.

      more running and other endurance work would help but the heart and lungs cannot improve THAT much an extra 20lbs of muscle will slow you down in later rounds.

      A powwerlifters routine should give you strength and power without making you huge, the reason for that is that powerlifting improves the muscle fiber fioring rate rather than increasing the size of the individual fibres

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Trick View Post
        Has it now?

        Ya, all those weights really slowed Roy Jones down...


        .......yeah, I would agree. The videos clearly show that his speed dimished as he went up the weight divisions.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by hemichromis View Post
          i agree with you, to a poiunt.

          Most hweavys nowasday use weights too much. they get big and strong but they are unable to kleep their workrate up.

          more running and other endurance work would help but the heart and lungs cannot improve THAT much an extra 20lbs of muscle will slow you down in later rounds.

          A powwerlifters routine should give you strength and power without making you huge, the reason for that is that powerlifting improves the muscle fiber fioring rate rather than increasing the size of the individual fibres
          THANKS YOU!! (no ****)

          The only reason people have always been saying that weight training is 't3h 3vi1zz!!1" is because of the ******s that forget to keep up with their conditioning work while lifting weights. Bigger=/ stronger all the time. Mass comes from diet, so those guys getting overly big are consuming far too many calories and not doing anywhere near enough work. There's more to weight-training than becoming Ronnie Coleman. You can train for explosiveness, pure strength that'll AIDE in your boxing training so long as you keep up your other training. People in soccer were also afraid of weight-training because they thought it'd slow them down. Until they found out about strength training and look what we have now; bigger, faster and stronger players than ever. Hell I'm one of the biggest guys on all my teams, yet I'm one of the fastest because I work mostly for strength, not just hypertrophy. Geez, I hate ignorance.

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          • #35
            Anybody an idea why Shannon Briggs got as big as he is nowadays?
            I`ve seen the fight vs. Lewis where he was much smaler (compared to today).

            Did he Start bodybuilding?

            For his asthmatic problems 12 Rounds should be a bigger problem with that muscle mass.

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