Willie Pep is a Master, but Floyd is Garbage

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  • Abe Attell
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    Willie Pep is a Master, but Floyd is Garbage

    How come it is alright to say Willie Pep is a "Master" at defense, that it was "Art", but when it comes to Floyd Mayweather Jr., he is garbage, a scared punk, has no heart, etc. ?

    Willie Pep piece from Youtube, watch what the people say

  • Abe Attell
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    #2
    I do understand that Pep fought so much that he really didn't have much of a choice: If he were to get a cut, bruise, etc. he wouldn't be able to earn money.

    Fighters back then had to fight all the time because the purse was much smaller than compared to today.

    But still, it is still not right

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    • BuddyChacon
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      #3
      If Floyd was Willie he would have ducked Sandy Saddler for years.

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      • El Jesus
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        #4
        arrogance, people cant stand it when floyd throws it in their face how great he is. everywhere on the web, its alot of floyd hate. but all credible outlets such as "ring" and espn beg to differ and give him his due.

        to tell you the truth...the internet is a wonderful place, but you have to understand that this is the place where any opinion can be justified, any stat can tell you anything. this is the only place where i see people rippnig floyd for the most rediculous of reasons. only floyd could possibly be ripped for fightin the UNDISPUTED WW Champion. think about it.

        what these people say..even what i say as a floyd supporter dont really matter, what matters is that in the end, hes still a 3 time linear champ, hes been ducked by some of the worlds best openly (hatton/shane), but he gets all the blame because hes extremely arrogant.

        thank god the internet wasnt around in ray robinsons time.

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        • El Jesus
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          #5
          Originally posted by buddychacon
          If Floyd was Willie he would have ducked Sandy Saddler for years.
          like he ducked jesus chavez, famoso hernandez, diego corralles, and jose luis castillo?

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          • realheavyhands
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            #6
            Originally posted by Abe Attell
            How come it is alright to say Willie Pep is a "Master" at defense, that it was "Art", but when it comes to Floyd Mayweather Jr., he is garbage, a scared punk, has no heart, etc. ?

            Willie Pep piece from Youtube, watch what the people say

            pep fought all the best fighter sandy saddler was is ranked in the top five punchers all time.... baldomir isnt in the top 1000

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            • cortdawg25
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              #7
              Bigtime would say it's because he is white. But the truth in the matter is that is the "sweetscience" That's what boxing is, hit and not get hit. If you can overpower your opponent, then overpower him. but if he is the bigger man, utilize your strength and take advantage of his weakness. Thats what Floyd does, he seldom is the bigger man in his fights now. he shows all different kinds of angle, breaks your rhythm, cause frustration, and keeps you off balance. What is sickening to me is that Bert Sugar is praising him there and he very rarely says anything positive about Floyd. Just goes to show how fickle people are, they just can't think for themselves.

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              • jack_the_rippuh
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                #8
                Because Floyd is black.
                I said it.
                Next question.

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                • Southpaw Stinger
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by jack_the_rippuh
                  Because Floyd is black.
                  I said it.
                  Next question.
                  So are Robinson and Leonard but Bert Sugar is always sucking their arses.

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                  • MelMel
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                    #10
                    Defensive 'mastery' against a guy you hand-picked for his one-dimensionality is not impressive.

                    I expect most Pep fights were incredibly boring as well.

                    I'm still a Floyd fan. But that was a lame fight.

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