Mayweather/De La Hoya: Look at this article I found.

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  • DLT
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    #11
    Originally posted by Abe Attell
    I think if Shane were have to trained with a better coach, not offense to his father, he would of been even better (if you can imagine that).

    Shane lacks some boxing skills in my opinion, kind of like Roy Jones. I am just saying, imagine if they had better training in technique from a master trainer like a Ray Arcel. Shane would of been cool with D'amato or Rooney, or maybe not, not sure.

    Shane at 135 though was wicked good.
    Im not taking anything away from Shane as he was special and a straight up monster but he also is what he is. You could say the trainer thing about alot of fighters. Shane mightve never had it in him to be a great boxer no matter who teached him. Its like saying how much of a monster Floyd would be if he had Shane's strenght & power

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    • amagnin
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      #12
      This article contains several inaccuracies. Firstly, his comparison of Mayweather and Mosley is incredibly lacking. Yes Mosley can punch harder on a one punch basis and I'll even give Mosley an equivalent grade in speed. Here is the main difference...FLOYD KNOWS HOW TO PLAY DEFENSE, while Mosley gets hit a ton...look at any of the punchstat numbers even from his early fights. If Shane could have defended better against DLH and Forrest then he probably would have won those fights. He never came close to KO'ing DLH or Forrest so his "power advantage" meant nothing. Meanwhile Floyd doesn't need KO's to win, and can still KO people with an accumulation of punches like we've all seen. So basically if this fight goes like the Mosley fight, we'll see an older slower DLH against a guy as fast as a prime Mosley with defense (I see easy UD and it has nothing to do with DLH's stamina). Also Zab Judah was not dominating the fight for 6 rounds. True after 4 rounds he was winning the fight on my card, but keep these things in mind. Regardless of chin and mental makeup, Judah has mad skills (maybe even better than Floyd) and this was Judah's last chance in that if he lost he would be totally washed up. Nonetheless, Floyd prevailed pretty easily despite all of this trouble. I credit DLH a lot as a good fighter but he is past his prime and even in his prime had problems with slick boxers (Whitaker).

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      • scap
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        #13
        Im an Oscar homer and this is a tough fight for me to look at objectively.

        My man is notorious for running out of gas and this may be his undoing in this fight as well.

        I think he trains his ass off but when he only fights once every year and a half it has got to affect his conditioning down the stretch in fights.

        The buildup will be huge, this is going to be Sr. Vs. Jr....hell you are going to have to remind folks that Floyd is fighting Oscar and not his dad at times I think.

        Does Sr. know how to beat his boy? Forget outspeeding Floyd can Oscar time him? Will Floyd be reduced to potshotting? Will Oscar apply real pressure? Can Goldie hit Floyd clean? Can Floyd take a clean left hook to the liver? How are even rounds scored? Is Floyd simply on another level at this stage? What will the size difference look like in the ring?


        **** if I know?

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        • machotime
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          #14
          Originally posted by scap
          Im an Oscar homer and this is a tough fight for me to look at objectively.

          My man is notorious for running out of gas and this may be his undoing in this fight as well.

          I think he trains his ass off but when he only fights once every year and a half it has got to affect his conditioning down the stretch in fights.

          The buildup will be huge, this is going to be Sr. Vs. Jr....hell you are going to have to remind folks that Floyd is fighting Oscar and not his dad at times I think.

          Does Sr. know how to beat his boy? Forget outspeeding Floyd can Oscar time him? Will Floyd be reduced to potshotting? Will Oscar apply real pressure? Can Goldie hit Floyd clean? Can Floyd take a clean left hook to the liver? How are even rounds scored? Is Floyd simply on another level at this stage? What will the size difference look like in the ring?


          **** if I know?

          Someone told me that DLH has an 11 inch penis, Mayweather claims to have 8 inches.

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          • Super_Lightweight
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            #15
            Shane lacks some boxing skills in my opinion, kind of like Roy Jones.
            What? Roy's skills were awesome. Suberb. You don't have to be textbook to have great skills. Roy's ability to put together punches and keep opponents off balance = skills.

            This article is kind of flawed because it mentions Oscar lost to Tito, and lost to Mosley twice and says he should've lost to Sturm. That makes no sense because if you are going to mentioned that DLH should've lost to Sturm then you have to mention he deserved the nod over both Tito and Mosley in the 2nd fight.

            He's just trying to paint a bad picture for Oscar.

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              #16
              Oscar's stamina issues are overplayed. I've seen his fights vs Quartey and Mosley and stamina was not much of an issue as people make it out to be. DLH rallied late vs Quartey and vs Shane, it's ok to be a little more winded than your opponent when Shane is who he is and furthermore might have been in with Balco at that time.

              Oscar had 'stamina issues' vs guys who hit hard and fight fiercely. Floyd is not Shane and will not put power punches together all night like Shane did on Oscar all those years ago. This fight will be slower paced and Floyd's lack of power means that Oscar has even less to worry about so far as stamina is concerned.

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                #17
                Originally posted by machotime
                Someone told me that DLH has an 11 inch penis, Mayweather claims to have 8 inches.
                Oscar by **** Slap KO

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by machotime
                  Someone told me that DLH has an 11 inch penis, Mayweather claims to have 8 inches.
                  The Brothas are gonna call bull**** on this one, this is one stereotype they feel is worth fighting for.

                  My sister throughout her life has been a real slut and as we were growing up in beautiful Seattle she would often try and gross me out by telling me how she enjoyed to be ****ed "super fast"

                  I got in the habit of telling her that she should be a big Floyd fan because he could "speed ****" her to death...she is absolutely obsessed with him now!


                  Macho if what you say is true and floyd has an 8 inch **** he just may ruin my big sis after all how can she contend with speed and size?

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by scap
                    The Brothas are gonna call bull**** on this one, this is one stereotype they feel is worth fighting for.

                    My sister throughout her life has been a real slut and as we were growing up in beautiful Seattle she would often try and gross me out by telling me how she enjoyed to be ****ed "super fast"

                    I got in the habit of telling her that she should be a big Floyd fan because he could "speed ****" her to death...she is absolutely obsessed with him now!


                    Macho if what you say is true and floyd has an 8 inch **** he just may ruin my big sis after all how can she contend with speed and size?
                    Where you live? Phone#?? hook it up..

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                    • deliveryman
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                      #20
                      That has to be the most biased article I have ever read in my life.

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