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  • LiLHopkins
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    Mayweather/De La Hoya: Look at this article I found.

    14.11.06 - By Matt Stein: Oscar De La Hoya (38-4, 30 KO's), the current WBC Super welterweight champion, will defend his 154 lb. title against Floyd Mayweather Jr. (37-0, 24 KO's) on May 5th, 2007, most likely in Las Vegas. The 154 lb. limit should help the older, slower De La Hoya, primarily because he'll come in to the fight as the naturally bigger fighter than Mayweather, a fighter that as recently as 2005, was still fighting in the super light weight division (140 lbs). Besides that, De La Hoya, 5'10 1/2," will have a 2 1/2 inch height advantage over the 5'8" Mayweather.

    Another factor in De La Hoya's favor, is that he has already fought Shane Mosley, a former P4P boxer, who, in my opinion, is a better fighter than Mayweather can ever hope to be. Mosley is just as fast, but is much more powerful puncher than Mayweather. De La Hoya, although losing twice to Mosley, fought him very tough and came close to winning each time. If Oscar can do that well against someone as good as Mosley, than I give him a good chance at beating Mayweather.

    While both Mayweather and De La Hoya are going to make a ton of money, and in all likelihood set PPV records, the fight itself might not live up to the huge expectations of the boxing fans that are willing to pay the $49.95 to see the PPV event. The reasons are simple. First of all, De La Hoya, now 33-years-old, has slipped quite a bit from his prime years, which was around seven years ago, before he met up with Mosley.

    Since then, De La Hoya has been in a steady decline, and along the way, plagued by poor stamina and conditioning problems. De La Hoya's been beaten 4 in his last 11 bouts, and you can arguably add another loss from De La Hoya's bout with Felix Sturm, a European middleweight, who appeared to dominate De La Hoya over 12-rounds, yet came out the loser in a controversial decision. During this time frame, De La Hoya has lost to Felix Trinidad in 1999, twice to Shane Mosley, once in 2000, another time in 2003, and then was stopped in the 9th round by Bernard Hopkins in September 2004.

    Admittedly, it's a remarkable accomplishment for De La Hoya to come back from two years of inactivity, following his loss to Hopkins, to then stop Ricardo Mayorga in the 6th round in May 2006, but it's not the same as fighting a high level opponent, such as Mayweather. Though, a tough brawler, Mayorga had nowhere near the same skills as De La hoya, plus Mayorga had already been softened up for De la Hoya, after being systematically taken apart by Felix Trinidad in an 8-round knockout loss in October 2004.

    Whatever the case, De La Hoya believes he still has enough in his tank to beat Mayweather, a fighter who many people consider to be the top pound for pound boxer. If, however, De La Hoya has any chance to win, he'll have to use his size and reach to his advantage, since he won't be able to compete with Mayweather's fast hands and excellent counter punching ability. More than that, De La Hoya will have to be able to fight hard for the entire 12-rounds, something he's had problems with in the past, when he's run out of gas in the late rounds against Trinidad, Mosley, and Hopkins. Based on this alone, I'm not giving De La Hoya much of a chance.

    Mayweather, however, isn't without his flaws, either. In his last fight against Carlos Baldomir, Mayweather seemed reluctant to mix it up with him, choosing to move from side to side and throw an occasional pot shot. Clearly effective against a slow and limited fighter like Baldomir, but not necessarily so against a skilled boxer like De La Hoya, who will probably stand back on the outside and calmly spear Mayweather with his jab. If De La Hoya can stick to a tight fight plan, which uses mostly jabbing, mixed with a few left hooks, he'll give the Mayweather few chances to use his counter punching ability, and thus take away a big part of his customary advantage.

    Likewise, when Mayweather comes forward against the taller, wiser De La Hoya, he will have to eat a lot of jabs in the process, again, something that Mayweather is not accustomed to experiencing. When it's all said and done, if De La Hoya can stay on the offensive and keep Mayweather ducking punches, De La Hoya has a good chance at winning the bout. In his fight with Zab Judah, Mayweather had problems when Judah was bringing the fight to him in the first 6 rounds. Accustomed to being the one that controls the fight, Mayweather seemed completely lost while Judah was on offense.

    The problem for Judah, however, is that he ran out of gas and let Mayweather back in the fight. For De La hoya, he's going to have to avoid making this mistake, by pacing himself better, to prevent Mayweather from taking control in the late rounds. If De La Hoya doesn't run out of energy, I think he'll do enough to win this. The problem is, he will. Bottom line: Mayweather wins easy 12-round decision over and old looking De La Hoya.


    Man I don't follow nothing these boxing writers say after the Toney vs. Peter fight.
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    I already read this on that other site and I think its complete garbage. If you want to say that you think Shane can beat Floyd then thats fine and your own opinion but to say that Shane is a better fighter then Floyd can ever hope to be is just ******.

    I also thought it was dumb for him and anyone else to keep talking about the early part of the Zab fight without bringing up the fact that Zab is a lefty. Thats what gave Floyd the most problems and it took him a while to figure it out. Alot of people try to play it like Zab ran out of gas but thats a joke. Floyd figured him out after the 4th round and that was the end of the fight

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      Originally posted by DLT
      I already read this on that other site and I think its complete garbage. If you want to say that you think Shane can beat Floyd then thats fine and your own opinion but to say that Shane is a better fighter then Floyd can ever hope to be is just ******.

      I also thought it was dumb for him and anyone else to keep talking about the early part of the Zab fight without bringing up the fact that Zab is a lefty. Thats what gave Floyd the most problems and it took him a while to figure it out. Alot of people try to play it like Zab ran out of gas but thats a joke. Floyd figured him out after the 4th round and that was the end of the fight
      I think if Shane were have to trained with a better coach, not offense to his father, he would of been even better (if you can imagine that).

      Shane lacks some boxing skills in my opinion, kind of like Roy Jones. I am just saying, imagine if they had better training in technique from a master trainer like a Ray Arcel. Shane would of been cool with D'amato or Rooney, or maybe not, not sure.

      Shane at 135 though was wicked good.
      Last edited by Abe Attell; 11-15-2006, 02:27 AM.

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        ever since i saw oscar vs. tito ive been a die hard oscar hater.....i can go on and on about how his fights were hand picked and so on....how a mexican fighter DOES NOT RUN....me being mexican took that loss like an insult from him.....but since it was announced that oscar would take on floyd here in dallas, tx. its creating sort of a racial barrier.....floyd being black has all my patnas saying that blacks have always beaten the mexican....they bring up hop vs. oscar.....whitaker vs. chavez....of course i always bring up chavez vs. taylor but man as much as i hate oscar im beginning to feel like i might just pull for oscar to whup floyd to shut these fools up....i know all the pretty boy fans out there are quick to bring up him being p4p #1 but come on oscar's comp is way better than floyd....the one time im actually going to pull for oscar i feel like he is no underdog....no way is oscar the underdog....he's the true junior middleweight i realize that....oscar should win....and i hope he does but if floyd is to show his greatness here is his opportunity...against the golden boy.....man im hyped about this fight more than i thought i would be.....anyways WAR MORALES!!!!!!

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          Come on, this is boxing, you have to be smart about it.

          If Oscar knew he couldn't stand in there toe to toe with Tito because his energy wasn't going to be enough to last, why lose the fight by getting batterd?

          He won that fight by points, even if they gave him the loss.

          the "Mexican" way? So are you saying Mexicans don't use their brain?

          If anything, I think Oscar didn't have to dance so much early on and waste his energy. I really think Oscar has the chin to stand in there with Tito when his stamina is high.

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            this is a fight between 2 americans, 2 olympians who have represented this country and flown our flag overseas to represent this country as boxers, playing the race card in this fight is meaningless, both of these guys are 2 american legends going at it, and while oscar has a connection with his mexican heritage, hes an american through and through. so this isnt like chavez taylor or any fight like that.

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              i agree with you black jesus...good statement.....im just saying what the general feeling around here is ......abe i know what your saying but 7 years ago i really didn't understand why he would run but i really doubt he would ever go toe to toe with tito.....

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                Originally posted by living_legend
                i agree with you black jesus...good statement.....im just saying what the general feeling around here is ......abe i know what your saying but 7 years ago i really didn't understand why he would run but i really doubt he would ever go toe to toe with tito.....
                Mexicans are very tough on their fighters though, you have to admit that. there is alot more at stake for alot of mexican fighters, alot of them to be accepted cant just win, they have to dish it out as well as take it. In america the philosophy is different, hit and notget hit is a key thing about the way we approach fights.

                look at barrera, he doesnt have to go toe to toe, but he has..and has for many years, and the one time he didint, he was ripped apart. although i myself was dissapointed in the juarez fight, because i expected a fight, it hurt my wallet getting that ****, but the isreal vasquez fight made it worth it.

                i mean, look at bojado and JMM, they will never get the acceptance from the mexican community that many other fighters enjoy.

                its tough to be a mexican fighter in some ways because in order to pimp out a big mexican audience, you gotta go toe to toe. thats why i feel many in the mexican community in particular, cant stand mayweather. ANY fighter who moves and hits is "running" to alot of mexican fight fans in my opinion. and that opinion is from watchign countles fights with my many mexican friends (and the family members of the many mexican girls ive dated) over the last 10 years.

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                  Originally posted by DLT
                  I already read this on that other site and I think its complete garbage. If you want to say that you think Shane can beat Floyd then thats fine and your own opinion but to say that Shane is a better fighter then Floyd can ever hope to be is just ******.

                  I also thought it was dumb for him and anyone else to keep talking about the early part of the Zab fight without bringing up the fact that Zab is a lefty. Thats what gave Floyd the most problems and it took him a while to figure it out. Alot of people try to play it like Zab ran out of gas but thats a joke. Floyd figured him out after the 4th round and that was the end of the fight
                  It took him 4 rounds to adjust, I don't remember Zab taking the fight to Floyd. I remember Floyd backing Zab up the whole fight. 6 rounds is the guy crazy!!

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