Why are people so Upset about Briggs Winning?

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  • Evil_Meat
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    #31
    Originally posted by Kid Achilles
    I think by his respect he means his respect for Briggs as a champion with aspirations for unification, not as a person. I don't hate Briggs as a person or even as a fighter but him with a title belt is ridiculous, even in this division.

    As a fighter in his prime he was a pretty good early round offensive machine. Decent B- contender I'd say. But now he's past his prime and isn't even as good as he was when he had those losses. As a champion at his age, with his flaws, he shouldn't even be taken seriously.
    yeah good point, but age 35 isn't old for a big heavyweight because at 35 u havn't lost anything except foot speed and thats not really a big deal for huge heavyweights. He was very fast in his prime and has turned into a completely different fighter. The general feeling im getting is that boxing fans take him far less seriously than actual boxers. As many boxers are afraid of him.

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    • Welter_Skelter
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      #32
      Originally posted by DiegoFuego
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      What do know about me MRKNOWITALl? There you go again making uninformed statements that you dont jack **** about.. NOT the faacts.. you are really good at it..Now I am Canadian I only live in the UK.. And I am not bitter at all.. I have a beautiful life I am smiling all the time.. and you are another reason I get a smile on my face.. I love laughing at how much a cretin you are.. Its truly entertaining..
      Last edited by Welter_Skelter; 11-14-2006, 07:30 PM.

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      • Derranged
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        #33
        I personally don't care whether or not he won. Im not a fan of Briggs or Sergei.

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        • Run
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          #34
          Originally posted by Evil_Meat
          yeah good point, but age 35 isn't old for a big heavyweight because at 35 u havn't lost anything except foot speed and thats not really a big deal for huge heavyweights. He was very fast in his prime and has turned into a completely different fighter. The general feeling im getting is that boxing fans take him far less seriously than actual boxers. As many boxers are afraid of him.
          yeah I don't buy that.

          He's nowhere near as versatile as he was when he was younger, and his reflexes clearly aren't what they used to be.

          Not that Briggs was ever exactly a cat or anything.

          Power is the last thing to go, and Briggs still has that at least. It's enough to cause problems with virtually anyone he fights in the division.

          I don't think anyone is really afraid of him, and he's more than likely the weakest of the title holders at the moment.

          He's really just a dark horse and one of the only true American Heavyweights and that's the card he plays.



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          • Evil_Meat
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            #35
            Originally posted by RunWithKnives
            yeah I don't buy that.

            He's nowhere near as versatile as he was when he was younger, and his reflexes clearly aren't what they used to be.

            Not that Briggs was ever exactly a cat or anything.

            Power is the last thing to go, and Briggs still has that at least. It's enough to cause problems with virtually anyone he fights in the division.

            I don't think anyone is really afraid of him, and he's more than likely the weakest of the title holders at the moment.
            again this is coming from a fan, and there are many boxers who take him more seriously than fans.

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            • Kid Achilles
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              #36
              The reason for that is he's a good puncher. Boxers would approach a match with Butterbean in the same way. No one wants to get knocked out by a lower caliber opponent (Briggs is clearly much better than Butterbean though).

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              • Banderivets
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                #37
                Originally posted by Black Jesus
                how the **** are people hating on a man trying to unify is beyond comprehension
                No no man. All the power to him. But it appears that he genuinly believes that he can do it.

                Instead of taking a realistic approach, he just seems to have blind faith in himself that he can do it.


                Well hit the ****ing tredmil and loose that useless muscle is my advice.

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                • Smokin'
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                  #38
                  we are upset because he is absolutely useless and wouldn't even crack the top 10 in any other era. The fat ****s of the 80's would still be knocking him out..

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                  • Parody
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Kid Achilles
                    1. His stamina is THE WORST I HAVE EVER SEEN BY ANY TITLE HOLDER IN ANY WEIGHTCLASS IN THE SPORTS HISTORY. Maybe someone with worse stamina existed, but I haven't seen film of him.

                    2. His chin is not very strong. Poor stamina and a weak chin are a terrible, terrible combination.

                    3. He lost to Darroll Wilson, Jameel McCline, Sedreck Fields while looking better than he just did last night. Tell me, if he lost to these guys when he was young and had better stamina, what can he do now that he's bloated and roided up and can't throw more than 10 punches per round?

                    4. The fight he won his title in, was one of the worst title fights I've seen.

                    5. The opponent, Sergei Lyhakhovich was in ****ty condition himself and fought like a complete *****. I like Sergei and think he can do better, but he was garbage on that night.

                    6. People on this forum are hyping him up like he's even as good as Maskaev or Oleg who at least show they can fight for 12 rounds at a passable activity level, which is a PREREQUISITE for a champion fighter.

                    7. He clearly used steroids. Don't ask me to prove it, you know he does.

                    All of these things add up to a really ****ty champion in Shannon Briggs. If Butterbean got in a lucky punch and became champion I would not be any more upset. At least Butterbean at 330 lbs of complete flab proved he can go 10 rounds while throwing a decent amount of punches vs. Holmes.

                    Briggs is the weakest heavyweight title holder ever. Compared to him, a guy like Ruiz should be considered an all time great.

                    I will stop talking **** about him when he fights a top five contender and beats him in a convincing manner. Until then I consider his win over Sergei a stroke of luck in having an unprepared and fearful man standing across the ring from him. Even then, Briggs was so cautious and reluctant to throw punches. When Brewster beat Golota in one round I knew that Golota wasn't his best but it was such a strong performance that I gave Brewster full credit. That was such a pitiful performance by Briggs that I actually LOST respect for him in his victory. I knew his stamina was bad but that was unbelievable. I was laughing out loud when he looked winded after the second round after throwing a grand total of maybe 30-40 punches by that point. Sergei just looked completely lost concerning what to do with the spent Briggs that he allowed the fight to go into the later rounds where his own miserably out of shape self tired and was stopped.

                    Just a terrible, terrible fight.
                    How much money did you lose? be honest

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                    • El Jesus
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by sfdmalex
                      No no man. All the power to him. But it appears that he genuinly believes that he can do it.

                      Instead of taking a realistic approach, he just seems to have blind faith in himself that he can do it.


                      Well hit the ****ing tredmil and loose that useless muscle is my advice.
                      at least you know hell be knockin someone out or getting knocked out, this is the additude the HW's need, title holders vs title holders, somebody has to beilieve, at least if he loses to a title holder, thats one more title in someones hands further bringing definition to the table.

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