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  • Brockton Lip
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    #31
    Originally posted by sfdmalex
    So for you to say someone is at a genetic disatvantage it depends what you mean. Most europeans are strong then Africans. Africans are leaner faster, stronger no...So it all balances out.


    But even to say that white Americans are at some genetic disatvange is odd, because America is a melting pot. You got people from Irish to Italian intermixed and so on...


    I just dont believe in genetic superiority in boxing. It seems to balance out, if a Euro stronger, then an African is faster. Both important factors right? Now its down to hard work and skill to take advantage of those "genetics" gifts.
    Agreed, good post.

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    • El Pollo LoCo
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      #32
      lol white hope in tommy z. i saw that fight and tho he looked good it was his first fight against someone that was 2-2 and i think 1. not sure how he is at football but if he is any good he will go to the NFL and there goes his boxing career. to top it off 3 of the 4 HW title holders are white.... i did like the movie the great white hype, which fits very well in this stituation

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      • El Jesus
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        #33
        Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
        Personally there should be a hunt for Black Hopes, and not white hopes. 90% of the "name" fighters currently in the sport are not Black. They are white, hispanic, mexican, filipino, etc. Top African American fighters are really on the decline in boxing, as other races and countries are taking over the sport.

        The phrase white hope is a dead phrase in my opinion.


        the problem is black people dont care too much. this makes the concept kinda dumbfounded, i dont believe in "hopes" anymore, its outdated.

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        • Banderivets
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          #34
          Originally posted by El Pollo LoCo
          lol to top it off 3 of the 4 HW title holders are white..

          Well they dont count as "white hope"

          "Great White Hope" specificaly refers to a white American...Euros are of no relivance here. It's an American created terms.

          In Europe boxers are European, so its common there to see European champions lol...No one goes around there saying "Great White Hope" when all you see most of the time is white guys in the ring.


          This whole "great white hope" is an American created term.

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          • Banderivets
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            #35
            Originally posted by Black Jesus
            the problem is black people dont care too much.

            Good. Everyone should follow in their lead then...


            However I am yet to meet an African-American/Canadian who had anything good to say about either Klitschko

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            • The Fix
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              #36
              white hopes?...until last week all 4 title holders were white.... where is the next black hope?

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              • El Jesus
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                #37
                Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
                And Miranda is not black, nor is Callabero I think.
                Edison Miranda is black and i garuntee you if you ask him, hed tell you the same thing. Being from a spanish speaking nation doesnt excuse you from what race you are. People seem to love to hang onto this notion. Why is it people from the netherlands who speak dutch are still black, why are french speaking black people still black, but yet, black people from the latin world arent black? thats so rediculous.

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                • -Antonio-
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Black Jesus
                  Edison Miranda is black and i garuntee you if you ask him, hed tell you the same thing. Being from a spanish speaking nation doesnt excuse you from what race you are. People seem to love to hang onto this notion. Why is it people from the netherlands who speak dutch are still black, why are french speaking black people still black, but yet, black people from the latin world arent black? thats so rediculous.
                  Black yes. [B]African American[B]no.

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                  • BloodClot
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Black Jesus
                    Edison Miranda is black and i garuntee you if you ask him, hed tell you the same thing. Being from a spanish speaking nation doesnt excuse you from what race you are. People seem to love to hang onto this notion. Why is it people from the netherlands who speak dutch are still black, why are french speaking black people still black, but yet, black people from the latin world arent black? thats so rediculous.
                    believe me if he were to come into my neighborhood he would be black!

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                    • Rockin'
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                      #40
                      Asian, being a writer is a great thing that you do, but you dont have to do it by using racist terms and controversey. I saw your other thread about boxing being morale, let me tell you that it is. To me the great white hope is an old mochery brought forth by hatred and ill will. Leave that in the past and look into the future about writing something with some substance. Dont try to sell yourself with controversy, sell it with substance..........Rockin'

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