I know this is boxing, but I just don't get it....

[Guest]

dont change the cards on the table, I have a list this long of opponents I would have liked Jones to fight (the brits, michael nunn, g-man, dm...).

This has nothing you do with the fact that you stated Roy Jones fought nobodies, I showed you it is bs, bcos he fought toney, hopkins, mccallum, hill.

Nah, no card change, I'm well aware he fought four opponents of note in his 54 fight career. When I said he fought "nobodies" I was actually playing around with the lyrics of one of his songs. I wasn't even entirely serious. But if having 7.4% of your bouts against worthy competition isn't having a career mainly filled with fighting nobodies, then I don't know what is.

[Guest]

When you go out there and proclaim yourself to be better than Ray Robinson, who had it all including a knockout punch and the aggressive attitude and offensive skill to use it, you'd better back it up. If Mayweather didn't talk like he did he wouldn't be held to such high standards and would not be criticized. He'd be recognized as what he is, a brilliant defensive fight who's the best of his era.

What the Kid said. Lookin' good btw, Kid!

[wmute]

Nah, no card change, I'm well aware he fought four opponents of note in his 54 fight career. When I said he fought "nobodies" I was actually playing around with the lyrics of one of his songs. I wasn't even entirely serious. But if having 7.4% of your bouts against worthy competition isn't having a career mainly filled with fighting nobodies, then I don't know what is.

ok

with the mainly, which you now added your sentence make sense.

I could add a few more opponents that were not "nobodies" so that we could get from 7.4 to around 20%, but that does not erase the ridiculous defenses roy jones did at 175

[Guest]

ok

with the mainly, which you now added your sentence make sense.

I could add a few more opponents that were not "nobodies" so that we could get from 7.4 to around 20%, but that does not erase the ridiculous defenses roy jones did at 175

We got off on the wrong foot here brother (though you did swear at me), but never has such a talent been so squandered on meaningless fights IMO.

Of course, now he can handily beat an opponent of the sort-of level he more regularly fought at (Ajamu) but lose against the likes of Tarver and Johnson, it does raise the question as to whether he was ever that good, and whether he'd always be beaten by them in his prime. I'm not saying he would - in fact I think he'd beat them - but he's only himself to blame for that question being asked.

[bigtime9]

Of course, now he can handily beat an opponent of the sort-of level he more regularly fought at (Ajamu) but lose against the likes of Tarver and Johnson, it does raise the question as to whether he was ever that good, and whether he'd always be beaten by them in his prime. I'm not saying he would - in fact I think he'd beat them - but he's only himself to blame for that question being asked.

what fighter has fought top competition every fight..pleas name them

[Guest]

what fighter has fought top competition every fight..pleas name them

Big Time, that's childish man, don't used "owned". And don't "own" me. Come on, Robinson and Ali... Hell, just about EVERYBODY... would piss all over Roy's resume.

I get tired of hearing about ATGs on here just for potential alone. It's as if we'd all say Ali was a great based on his fight against Al "Blue" Lewis.

[The Noose]

How can a commentator go Floyd's entire career bashing him for not fighting like a Gatti or Ward? Floyd knows when he can try to walk his opponent down for a knockout (Judah, Mitchell) and he knows when he needs to be serious and just box to win and look impressive (Castillo II, Corrales, Baldomir).

I don't remember hearing a lot of bashing for Pernell Whitaker for being a light punching stylist.

Also, even Manny Steward has gone on about Baldomir being Floyd's toughest test in his mind. The second Floyd win's the fight easier than SOME expected, that SOME of people do the typical boxing thing of discrediting the win. Baldomir even came in at 162. Floyd was a legit SMALL Jr Middleweight fighting a big Middleweight. Floyd has a great defensive style, but he will also go shoulder to shoulder and take some body shots.

I know it happens all of the time in Boxing, but Mayweather being my favorite it itches me more right now.

You can go back to Floyd's early fights and Merchant is spitting the same crap about Floyd not being an exciting fighter.

He isnt exciting.
He is a great fighter, with talent and skill, but i wouldnt call him exciting. He is great to watch when he is picking off opponents, but his style of not taking risks in fights, i believe, means that his fights are robbed of real excitment.

I think Larry did compliment him, but is only remembered as the guy who discredited Floyd. And thats because he cant take criticism and makes a huge deal of of a valid question.
When Floyd makes himself out to be as great as Leonard and Robinson, and dresses as a gladitor, u expect more.

A matador maybe, but not a gladiator.

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We got off on the wrong foot here brother (though you did swear at me), but never has such a talent been so squandered on meaningless fights IMO.

Of course, now he can handily beat an opponent of the sort-of level he more regularly fought at (Ajamu) but lose against the likes of Tarver and Johnson, it does raise the question as to whether he was ever that good, and whether he'd always be beaten by them in his prime. I'm not saying he would - in fact I think he'd beat them - but he's only himself to blame for that question being asked.

is "bull****" swearing?

i know we would end up agreeing because I read other posts of yours in the past and I know you are not a dumb ass.

however...

you gave me bad k????? for that???? **** a ****