Its really sad

[The Scientist]

I don't belive that, he had Reggie Johnson ready to go, i beive he knocked him down with one punch each and he went down. What does Roy do, he lets him off the hook.

Don't be fooled by the added weight. Roy could have ko'd many fighters he fought at light heavyweight, but he was more worried about getting KO'd which eventually happened anyways, which is why he took the fighters 12 rounds.

Many boxing writers have said what im saying, cause if you see what he is doing to his oppoent, you see how they are reacting, but he lets them off hook. Roy still had the power at light heavyweight, Roys power is what allowed him to fight the way he did, or else he'd have gotten ko'd earlier, but his power always keep his opponets from taking risk, "some" of his opponet were contemp to just go 12 rounds and Roy, he didn't want to get hurt of ko'd so all he cared about was winning a 12 round descisin and thats it, if he had an opponet most of the time he'd back off unless he was 100 percent sure he wouldn't get hurt. I acutally stopped recording/watching some of his later fights, for the fact that he would allow ever opponet he faced to go 12 rounds with him, when it was clear he could have gotten a stoppage.

I believe there are two factors that deeply affected Roy Jones Jr. and changed his fighting demeanor from Yin to Yang: 1)The corrupt decision that kept him away from a gold medal in the Seoul, Korea Olympics, against his oponnent Park Si Hun hurt him deeply, he wasn't granted an appeal and given the gold medal even though the comitee proved one of the judges was bribed. If you note RJ's early work in the professional ranks, you will noticed how decisively he won his fights, he was knocking people the **** out to say the least. It's plausable to believe that he did this because he never wanted to potentialy be screwed by the judges ever again by risking it and going the distance. Eventualy he started to go all the way with his oponnents because he wanted more experience, or because his oponnents got better...it's anyones opinion. 2) Gerald Mclellan and Roy Jones Jr. were very good friends, they fought in the ameteurs where Gerald beat him a few times. There was hooplah about them facing each other when they were the hottest thing in the professional ranks, but Gerald faced Nigel Benn instead...well we all know what happened there, the fight was very violent and the aftermath was very sad. Roy Jones was wounded by what happened to Gerald, but im one of the many who believe this hit Jones profoundly, and made him think about his longetivity in the ring. Hence the metamorphasized ultra cautious Roy Jones Jr. of new. Now, Roy was able to get away with this style for so long because he was physicaly gifted beyond what is considered fair, he relied more on his natural gifts, as some folks put, than the science of boxing. Eventualy when he lost these advantages, he couldn't improvise and he lost to two fighters who aren't know as 'big' punchers. Hopkins is a good example, after failure against Jones, B-Hop transformed himself into a boxing master why he was able to last so long in the Middleweight division. In the end those who are familiar with Jone's acomplishments will realize that what he did equals uncommon success, lets face it, it equals greatness. There are gyms around the world full with fighters who will never accomplish a quarter of what RJ has. He is someone who set the bar high, why many people expected so much of him but ultimately he is somewhat of a disapointment because an ambassador of the sport like him should have accomplished more. Mad respect for Roy.

[Darkstar]

I assumy you saw those 2 fights (one of which was a draw)

then you should already know he is special

did you see those 2 fights (one of which was a draw)? if you did you would instantly know why he is HOF

I was bit young at the time. No is wasnt a draw james toney won them both.

[Diablo]

Roy is a sure fire HoF and a great fighter but I'm dissapointed because with his natural ability and skill he should have gone down as one of the greatest of all time.If only he took acouple more chances in his career.

By the way good post Scientist

[ferocity]

I believe there are two factors that deeply affected Roy Jones Jr. and changed his fighting demeanor from Yin to Yang: 1)The corrupt decision that kept him away from a gold medal in the Seoul, Korea Olympics, against his oponnent Park Si Hun hurt him deeply, he wasn't granted an appeal and given the gold medal even though the comitee proved one of the judges was bribed. If you note RJ's early work in the professional ranks, you will noticed how decisively he won his fights, he was knocking people the **** out to say the least. It's plausable to believe that he did this because he never wanted to potentialy be screwed by the judges ever again by risking it and going the distance. Eventualy he started to go all the way with his oponnents because he wanted more experience, or because his oponnents got better...it's anyones opinion. 2) Gerald Mclellan and Roy Jones Jr. were very good friends, they fought in the ameteurs where Gerald beat him a few times. There was hooplah about them facing each other when they were the hottest thing in the professional ranks, but Gerald faced Nigel Benn instead...well we all know what happened there, the fight was very violent and the aftermath was very sad. Roy Jones was wounded by what happened to Gerald, but im one of the many who believe this hit Jones profoundly, and made him think about his longetivity in the ring. Hence the metamorphasized ultra cautious Roy Jones Jr. of new. Now, Roy was able to get away with this style for so long because he was physicaly gifted beyond what is considered fair, he relied more on his natural gifts, as some folks put, than the science of boxing. Eventualy when he lost these advantages, he couldn't improvise and he lost to two fighters who aren't know as 'big' punchers. Hopkins is a good example, after failure against Jones, B-Hop transformed himself into a boxing master why he was able to last so long in the Middleweight division. In the end those who are familiar with Jone's acomplishments will realize that what he did equals uncommon success, lets face it, it equals greatness. There are gyms around the world full with fighters who will never accomplish a quarter of what RJ has. He is someone who set the bar high, why many people expected so much of him but ultimately he is somewhat of a disapointment because an ambassador of the sport like him should have accomplished more. Mad respect for Roy.

I aggree with a lot of things you said. I forgot that the McCallen had an effect on Jones, and you're right, people did expect a lot from him. But imo, him failing to take on a few tough opponets looks bad on his record for not having those names on his record. Before Floyd started naming himself the best ever, some writers were labeling Jones Jr. the best ever since Ray Robinson.

And what i meant about Roys power is that, besides his great skills, it was his power that made his opponets respect his him in the ring and pause before just charging at Jones. I think if you're going to remember Roy, theirs no way you can talk about him and not talk about the power he had, thats a must.

[miron_lang]

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RJJ is Great IMO.

[onetwopunch]

They musta forgot..Roy was lighting in the ring, not even PBF did the things he did, he was the 1st fighter I ever saw to lunge at you from across the ring with an uppercut, he never used the jab it was crazy double, triple left hooks..he was just plain nasty.

[TomRiddle]

Some people talk about the opposition of Roy Jones, the fact is he had beaten 19 World champions and 4 Hall of Famers, its really sad when someone whos on the top of his game for years suddenly loses, and people talk about how rubbish he was, or how rubbish his opposition was. I hope Floyd does'nt lose otherwise people would talk **** about him too.

19 World Champions and 4 HOF's...just remember that. I dont know why people complain about Roy's opposition, and bring some fighters and claim he ducked them, its just ******.

Bernard Hopkins
James Toney
Virgil Hill
Mike McCallum....end of story

as I heard and read about it
it's because RJ was not tested by the best opposition, HBO and the matchmakers are giving him winnable fights, and had not proven himself against the best until it was too late.
the same goes true for Mayweather soon if he continues handpicking easy opponents.

[GEOFFHAYES]

He was a major disappointment.

[Bozo_no no]

The three greatest fighters of the last generation were Roy, Bernard, and Toney.

Roy's 2-0 agaisnt the other two.

That speaks for itself.

[GEOFFHAYES]

Jones, Hopkins and Toney are considered greater fighters than De La Hoya? I don't think so somehow.

Whitaker, De La Hoya, Mayweather - those are the best fighters of the 90's/00's, and the guys who fought the best fighters.