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  • Haglerwins
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    #201
    Originally posted by vB Martin
    You just answered your own question



    It is not universally known, it is widely accepted theory. The theory is called Migratory Theory, and has many holes in it, like many other theories such as evolution.
    As for simple genetics, as genetics has become more advanced closer links have been found between Asians, Indonesians more specifically, and living hominids on the Asian continent than to living hominids on the African continent, raising the possibility of seperate evolutioary paths for at least Mongoloids and Negroids.
    Again with simple genetics and evolutonary theory, if mankind started in North Africa, as the fossil record would indicate, it is just as likely that the sub-saharan Negroid race evolved the darker pigmentation in reaction to the harsher climatic conditions as it is that Europeans lost pigmentation due to a more moderate climate. The earliest known fossils of early man have been found in North Africa, in the Chadian desserts. North Africa has been largely Caucasoid in population throughout known history, while Sub-Saharan Africa is largely Negroid.
    If you base migration off the earliest known fossils, then it would appear than man started out Caucasoid and evolved pigmentation and body structure to suit the climates into which he migrated. This still makes Africa the birthplace of mankind, but casts doubt on whether or not we were all once black. Of couse this is pure theory, not fact.

    The only universally known fact regarding the origin and evolution of man is that we know far less than we don't know.

    I knew all these hours watching Discovery would come in handy some day

    Bad form, vB. Bad form.

    Discovery channel dun told you lies. The oldest human remains found were in Ethiopia and Kenya (that's right - Sub Saharan Africa). You should read up more on how melanin production works too. That's not something you get more of just migrating to a hot place as you'd like to believe.

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    • vB Martin
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      #202
      Originally posted by Haglerwins
      Bad form, vB. Bad form.

      Discovery channel dun told you lies. The oldest human remains found were in Ethiopia and Kenya (that's right - Sub Saharan Africa). You should read up more on how melanin production works too. That's not something you get more of just migrating to a hot place as you'd like to believe.
      Your information is a million or so years our of date:

      BBC, News, BBC News, news online, world, uk, international, foreign, british, online, service

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      • Manny_P
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        #203
        Oscar dela Hoe?Yeah! is pathetic.

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        • xcaret
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          #204
          Originally posted by _Benjamin$_
          Oscar de la Hoya?Yeah!, I wish we filipinos had a champ like him!.. Accomplished way more then Pac for sure!
          Right on... Oscar de la hoya is one of a kind...

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          • Red_Menace
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            #205
            Originally posted by Kid Achilles
            Race is a myth, a manmade construction created by europeans in an attempt to legitimize the slavery of blacks and the oppression of native americans by categorizing people into races of differing value. It has no basis in science. The last time seperate "races" of human like creatures existed was when neanderthals and cro-magnons inhabited the earth.
            I wanted to give you some karma for this post quite badly. Someone needed to talk some serious sense into this thread. It was massively depressing to read some of this stuff, so I skipped mostly to the end to see if things had improved.

            Race is a myth. I hate to break it to anyone that reads here, but the gene pool in your geographic region has been "invaded" by people of different colours(notice I did not say races) throughout history. If you think you're 100% anything you are wrong. This is a fact. I am white, yet if you looked at my genes, I could be more genetically similar to a black man living an Africa than to the white man that lives next door to me.

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            • Ta Khent
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              #206
              Originally posted by vB Martin
              You just answered your own question



              It is not universally known, it is widely accepted theory. The theory is called Migratory Theory, and has many holes in it, like many other theories such as evolution.
              As for simple genetics, as genetics has become more advanced closer links have been found between Asians, Indonesians more specifically, and living hominids on the Asian continent than to living hominids on the African continent, raising the possibility of seperate evolutioary paths for at least Mongoloids and Negroids.
              Again with simple genetics and evolutonary theory, if mankind started in North Africa, as the fossil record would indicate, it is just as likely that the sub-saharan Negroid race evolved the darker pigmentation in reaction to the harsher climatic conditions as it is that Europeans lost pigmentation due to a more moderate climate. The earliest known fossils of early man have been found in North Africa, in the Chadian desserts. North Africa has been largely Caucasoid in population throughout known history, while Sub-Saharan Africa is largely Negroid.
              If you base migration off the earliest known fossils, then it would appear than man started out Caucasoid and evolved pigmentation and body structure to suit the climates into which he migrated. This still makes Africa the birthplace of mankind, but casts doubt on whether or not we were all once black. Of couse this is pure theory, not fact.

              The only universally known fact regarding the origin and evolution of man is that we know far less than we don't know.

              I knew all these hours watching Discovery would come in handy some day

              This is precisely the reason why I don't watch the Discovery Channel. They are more concerned with distorting the truth than actually reporting it.

              It is absolutely impossible to get black from white. It goes against Universal Law. Cacausoid are from the same template as Negroid but with less melanin and serotonin. Very few scholars and historians can agree on where Cacausoid comes from. All living humans descend from African Eve.

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              • borikua
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                #207
                There's only one race...the human race.

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                • vB Martin
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                  #208
                  Originally posted by Merovingian
                  This is precisely the reason why I don't watch the Discovery Channel. They are more concerned with distorting the truth than actually reporting it.

                  It is absolutely impossible to get black from white. It goes against Universal Law. Cacausoid are from the same template as Negroid but with less melanin and serotonin. Very few scholars and historians can agree on where Cacausoid comes from. All living humans descend from African Eve.
                  First, you obviously didn't note the at the end of the Discovery comment. I'm a serious reader. As for them distorting the truth, it would be nice to see sources on that rather than just the appearance that they disagree wth you, therefore must be lying.
                  I think the more likely explanation is that they present theory straight from the mouths of the scientists they are covering, and there is not a single theory in science that doesn't have detractors and competitive theories.

                  Second, the human body is nothing, if not adaptable, so it's entirely possible that the human body might evolve to create more melanin over the course of millions of years. I'm not saying this any more than I'm saying that we weren't all Negroid at one time. I'm merely pointing out one of the several holes in Migratory Theory, which you seem to view as gospel while even the scientists who support regard it merely as the most plausible theory given current knowledge.

                  Lastly, as I noted before, there has been evidence discovered in the past few years, as science gains more tools, that makes is seem possible that at least the Mongoloid race evolved upon a seperate evolutionary path from the great apes native to that region of the world. Again, just theory based upon knowlede available and subject to being disproven.
                  The chief reason that most of the fossil record of human history comes from the African continent is that the arid climate there is more conducive to preventing decay and allows biological matter to last longer. The mere fact that more and older fossil record exists there is not the be all and end all of human history. It's a climatological happenstance.

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                  • ferocity
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                    #209
                    [QUOTE=jai mari078;1861662]
                    Originally posted by SnoopySmurf
                    This is the part I hate. Spaniards are caucasian. You are part of that lineage. You may have some native American but you sure look more caucasian than say....Asian or Black.

                    Mexican is not a race. But caucasian is.

                    This is what I hate because Spaniard and Mexican are to completely different things. How many Mexican Americans do you see that look white to you? Yea you have your exceptions and I don't know where you are from that you think Mexican Americans look white or if your just color blind. Why can't you just respect the fact that Mexican Americans will never want to be called Caucasian, and by doing that you are gonna offend a lot of people. No offense, but you must be white or being politically correct Caucasian because if you weren't we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
                    GREAT POST! I aggree.

                    We fought to not be considered white because we got treated unfairly. Some say they want to classify Mexicans/Chicanos as white, but have these people ever meet a Chicano or Mexican?

                    Also if Mexicans are white, why the hell did they seperate the white kids, from the Mexican kids in schools years ago? I forget the name but it was a Mexican/American family that first fought against segregation in the schools and to my Puerto Ricans the the wife was half Puerto Rican so we share a bit of history is that way too. The lawyer was Thurgurd Marshall, yes the same lawyer who helped the blacks.

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                    • ferocity
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                      #210
                      Originally posted by SnoopySmurf
                      Go mow my lawn.
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