I give full credit to Barrett...

[raymon123]

If Valuev hits so hard then why didn't he knockout Ruiz? Ruiz just stood there and let Valuev hit him. Tua finished off Ruiz in 19 seconds. I suspect Tua would finish off Valuev in about the same amount of time.

Why didn't rahman ko ruiz? lol i mean come on man. It's simple style makes fights.

[potatoes]

You never heard the adage styles make fights, do you? If Rahman was able to KO Lewis, why wasn't Tua? Think things out next time.

I wasn't impressed with Barrett's skill, but I do commend his valor. From the opening bell, Barrett's only plan was to wing haymakers with the right hand and try to knock him out. That was his whole game plan. Valuev is not a one punch KO guy but just the weight and force of a man that big hitting you and laying on you is going to wear you down. Valuev was open for EVERYTHING, particularly the left hook. Barrett should've been taking a step to his right and landing the left hook, he would've landed it all night. Instead, he stood in front of Valuev and payed dearly.

Valuev was definitely not impressive, if he can't get out of the way of Barrett's jab, anyone in the top 10 would detonate him.

Look sonny, try a little training down at the gym and you won't have to do so much theorizing.

Lewis was very careful not to let Tua hit him, but he got careless against Rahman. That had nothing to do with style. Ruiz let both the Valuev and and Tua hit him. That had nothing to do with style. All Ruiz had to do was move his head as much as he usually does and he would have clearly beaten Valuev. As it was many who saw the fight thought Ruiz had been robbed. Barrett should have reviewed the tape and figured out what Ruiz did wrong against Valuev. Barret may not have superstar talent but he certainly could have done that.

[AREALFIGHTER]

... I wasn't actually expecting a lot, I thought he was blowing hot air, but apparently after the fight Don King went into his dressing room and said "you weren't supposed to hit him back, baby! Only in America! Ha ha ha ha ha ha!"

Considering Barrett's last outing (for the first eleven rounds at least) was so passive and docile he just about stopped short of pulling down Rahman's shorts and fellating him in front of the Vegas crowd, then I was amazed to see him back up his words.

More than ever Valuev looks like the most vulnerable of the four titlists, notably wobbled on a number of occasions despite the fact that Barrett isn't an especially big puncher. Not only that, but he also of course doesn't punch anywhere near his weight. P4P Chris Byrd probably has more of a dig. While the 50-0 looms ever closer, maybe King could try and get that Little Klit bout for the money so at least Nicolay will lose his "0" to someone of substance.

By the halfway stage I actually had it even, with an argument that could be made that Barrett was ahead. However, by the end of the tenth it was 97-94 on my card, and I'm not ashamed to admit it brought tears to my eyes to see the compassion in Barrett's corner by stepping in to end the bout. Many other corners would have let it carry on.

Barrett has everything to be proud in last night's showing, a fight where he was brought along as Owen Beck style cannonfodder, but refused to play along.

Good good post I agree barret showed a lot of heart although he made for a real boring fight. He fought a smart fight . Valuev was never even hurt I really dought that he even ntoiced that he was getting hit. The main thing about valuev is that he needs to find his range although barret made that difficult. I was amazed by nikos stamana it was exceptional he never stoped punching and he never breathed hard.

[AREALFIGHTER]

Valuev is a hard puncher. He has a history of bruising ribs and breaking jaws in his fights. He is extremely heavyhanded, like Vitali Klitschko, but lacks the speed and workrate to transfer that power at a consistent enough rate to score knockouts. I guarantee that anyone who's been hit by him would describe him as heavyhanded and a hard puncher regardless of how his punches look on film.

I have not see the fight yet but it appears that Barrett really gave it his all, which is admirable. Hopefully he'll have at least one more payday before he retires.

I agree I would love to see barret get another payday as well

[AREALFIGHTER]

I agree with Asian here.
The guys is particulary open for that left, but in order to get there, you have to be close enough to the giant and in that area the bastard just leans on you.
I wanna see him Against either Wlad or Sergey.

I think a fight with austin would be very good they would stand infront of each other and fight I think niko could learn a lot from that fight

[AREALFIGHTER]

Why didn't rahman ko ruiz? lol i mean come on man. It's simple style makes fights.

believe it or not ruiz can take a good punch he stood infront of golota who has great power.

[Mr. Ryan]

Look sonny, try a little training down at the gym and you won't have to do so much theorizing.

Lewis was very careful not to let Tua hit him, but he got careless against Rahman. That had nothing to do with style. Ruiz let both the Valuev and and Tua hit him. That had nothing to do with style. All Ruiz had to do was move his head as much as he usually does and he would have clearly beaten Valuev. As it was many who saw the fight thought Ruiz had been robbed. Barrett should have reviewed the tape and figured out what Ruiz did wrong against Valuev. Barret may not have superstar talent but he certainly could have done that.

No doubt "sonny", I train at Union City Boxing Club in Union City, NJ. Check it out some time.

The scenarios and the moves you are describing in your hypothesis are moves that none of those guys have in their arsenal. More times than not you can't teach an old dog new tricks. Especially if they have 10 amateur fights.

[Derranged]

You never heard the adage styles make fights, do you? If Rahman was able to KO Lewis, why wasn't Tua? Think things out next time.

I wasn't impressed with Barrett's skill, but I do commend his valor. From the opening bell, Barrett's only plan was to wing haymakers with the right hand and try to knock him out. That was his whole game plan. Valuev is not a one punch KO guy but just the weight and force of a man that big hitting you and laying on you is going to wear you down. Valuev was open for EVERYTHING, particularly the left hook. Barrett should've been taking a step to his right and landing the left hook, he would've landed it all night. Instead, he stood in front of Valuev and payed dearly.

Valuev was definitely not impressive, if he can't get out of the way of Barrett's jab, anyone in the top 10 would detonate him.

I agree with everything you said. As I said in another thread, Barret did not have much of a plan, and looked very sloppy. He should've focused on the body a lot more and aimed for that liver.

[Mishra100]

Valuev is a hard puncher. He has a history of bruising ribs and breaking jaws in his fights. He is extremely heavyhanded, like Vitali Klitschko, but lacks the speed and workrate to transfer that power at a consistent enough rate to score knockouts. I guarantee that anyone who's been hit by him would describe him as heavyhanded and a hard puncher regardless of how his punches look on film.

I have not see the fight yet but it appears that Barrett really gave it his all, which is admirable. Hopefully he'll have at least one more payday before he retires.

You bring up a good point. I would like to hear the question of "Does he hit hard" answered by some of the boxers he has fought.

[STEELHEAD]

barrett hung in there. was hopeing more bodywork from barrett to maybe give more affect to punches to that easter island head of valuev.
wlad if he doesnt show up intimidated would put this thing in his place.
vitali too would do it,he gave lewis trouble and lewis would of had fun with someone as primitive as valuev.
peters would forget the little he knows of boxing skills and go ballistic right off the bat and maybe get lucky if the fights not too long.
i think that hybrid wintersquash head of valuev can be cracked by multible blows after taking a body pounding .