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  • !! Anorak
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    I give full credit to Barrett...

    ... I wasn't actually expecting a lot, I thought he was blowing hot air, but apparently after the fight Don King went into his dressing room and said "you weren't supposed to hit him back, baby! Only in America! Ha ha ha ha ha ha!"

    Considering Barrett's last outing (for the first eleven rounds at least) was so passive and docile he just about stopped short of pulling down Rahman's shorts and fellating him in front of the Vegas crowd, then I was amazed to see him back up his words.

    More than ever Valuev looks like the most vulnerable of the four titlists, notably wobbled on a number of occasions despite the fact that Barrett isn't an especially big puncher. Not only that, but he also of course doesn't punch anywhere near his weight. P4P Chris Byrd probably has more of a dig. While the 50-0 looms ever closer, maybe King could try and get that Little Klit bout for the money so at least Nicolay will lose his "0" to someone of substance.

    By the halfway stage I actually had it even, with an argument that could be made that Barrett was ahead. However, by the end of the tenth it was 97-94 on my card, and I'm not ashamed to admit it brought tears to my eyes to see the compassion in Barrett's corner by stepping in to end the bout. Many other corners would have let it carry on.

    Barrett has everything to be proud in last night's showing, a fight where he was brought along as Owen Beck style cannonfodder, but refused to play along.
  • joeytrimble
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    we'll have to wait and see just how good the big man is ...hes proved to be decent enough to maintain so far

    i'd like a few matches to be made that of with peters , jameel mcline , and the winner of the briggs match comming up

    before a fight with wladimer klitchko or oleg maskiav whom ever is champs at the time .. then the other champ for his 50th fight that'd make him undisputed champ 50-0 if he did make it how ever

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    • Kid Achilles
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      Valuev is a hard puncher. He has a history of bruising ribs and breaking jaws in his fights. He is extremely heavyhanded, like Vitali Klitschko, but lacks the speed and workrate to transfer that power at a consistent enough rate to score knockouts. I guarantee that anyone who's been hit by him would describe him as heavyhanded and a hard puncher regardless of how his punches look on film.

      I have not see the fight yet but it appears that Barrett really gave it his all, which is admirable. Hopefully he'll have at least one more payday before he retires.

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      • potatoes
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        #4
        Originally posted by Kid Achilles
        Valuev is a hard puncher. He has a history of bruising ribs and breaking jaws in his fights. He is extremely heavyhanded, like Vitali Klitschko, but lacks the speed and workrate to transfer that power at a consistent enough rate to score knockouts. I guarantee that anyone who's been hit by him would describe him as heavyhanded and a hard puncher regardless of how his punches look on film.

        I have not see the fight yet but it appears that Barrett really gave it his all, which is admirable. Hopefully he'll have at least one more payday before he retires.


        If Valuev hits so hard then why didn't he knockout Ruiz? Ruiz just stood there and let Valuev hit him. Tua finished off Ruiz in 19 seconds. I suspect Tua would finish off Valuev in about the same amount of time.

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        • Erik K
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          I thought Valuev won most of those rounds. I think I only gave Barrett 3 rounds. I do give Barrett credit he came to fight not like the Rahman fight.

          I agree Valuevs defense is bad but dont think Barrett really hurt him.

          Valuev needs to jab more & he will continue to give fighters trouble. Valuev just throws simple combos etc & no wide /wild punches so he has plenty of energy left late in the fight. He has great stamina for his size.

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          • Mr. Ryan
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            Originally posted by potatoes
            If Valuev hits so hard then why didn't he knockout Ruiz? Ruiz just stood there and let Valuev hit him. Tua finished off Ruiz in 19 seconds. I suspect Tua would finish off Valuev in about the same amount of time.
            You never heard the adage styles make fights, do you? If Rahman was able to KO Lewis, why wasn't Tua? Think things out next time.

            I wasn't impressed with Barrett's skill, but I do commend his valor. From the opening bell, Barrett's only plan was to wing haymakers with the right hand and try to knock him out. That was his whole game plan. Valuev is not a one punch KO guy but just the weight and force of a man that big hitting you and laying on you is going to wear you down. Valuev was open for EVERYTHING, particularly the left hook. Barrett should've been taking a step to his right and landing the left hook, he would've landed it all night. Instead, he stood in front of Valuev and payed dearly.

            Valuev was definitely not impressive, if he can't get out of the way of Barrett's jab, anyone in the top 10 would detonate him.

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            • :Bobby:
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              Valuev is a hard and heavy-handed puncher.
              But P4P, he actually is one of the weakest hitters around. 330 lbs.

              If a boxer like Barrett can hit him cleanly by throwing bombs, which is something he is not used to really, imagine a dedicated slugger would get it on with Valuev. Briggs, Peter, Tua ...

              Lennox Lewis would have murdered him.

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                Originally posted by Asian Sensation
                You never heard the adage styles make fights, do you? If Rahman was able to KO Lewis, why wasn't Tua? Think things out next time.

                I wasn't impressed with Barrett's skill, but I do commend his valor. From the opening bell, Barrett's only plan was to wing haymakers with the right hand and try to knock him out. That was his whole game plan. Valuev is not a one punch KO guy but just the weight and force of a man that big hitting you and laying on you is going to wear you down. Valuev was open for EVERYTHING, particularly the left hook. Barrett should've been taking a step to his right and landing the left hook, he would've landed it all night. Instead, he stood in front of Valuev and payed dearly.

                Valuev was definitely not impressive, if he can't get out of the way of Barrett's jab, anyone in the top 10 would detonate him.
                I agree with Asian here.
                The guys is particulary open for that left, but in order to get there, you have to be close enough to the giant and in that area the bastard just leans on you.
                I wanna see him Against either Wlad or Sergey.

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                • Mr. Ryan
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by BrooklynBomber
                  I agree with Asian here.
                  The guys is particulary open for that left, but in order to get there, you have to be close enough to the giant and in that area the bastard just leans on you.
                  I wanna see him Against either Wlad or Sergey.
                  I swear on my life, I've never seen a more ordinary fighter than Valuev. If he was a sweater, he'd be an extra medium. The guy really does nothing good at all, and is not that aesthetically pleasing.

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                  • Erik K
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                    Originally posted by Asian Sensation
                    I swear on my life, I've never seen a more ordinary fighter than Valuev. If he was a sweater, he'd be an extra medium. The guy really does nothing good at all, and is not that aesthetically pleasing.
                    Exactly, but thats all he needs to do to give most heavyweights problems. He throws simple combos , no wild/wide punches so he doesnt waste any energy. He can lean on you and wear you down. Plus his chin/skull seems to be able to take a good punch.

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