I was dissapointed with Arthur Abraham

[El Jesus]

I watched the fight finally, i was excited because i have never seen him, finally i was going to get a chance and personally, it was boring for the most part and he was not impressive at all. He barely moved, he kept his hands up for alot of rounds and he showed no jab, he didint set up punches and the latter half of the fight he was running. The positioning of his belt coupled with his constant back pedeling as well as his crouching to block led to those low blows. Alot of those landed right on the belt of his high trunks when i watched them in slow motion.

Abraham was constantly moving backward, and the punches he did land were in small flurries, so what if Miranda was hit flush, He would go back to turtling. It was worse than Wright to me because Wright does that in the center of the ring and flings a jab to put you off pace, however Abraham just stays back and decides once in awhile to throw some big looping punches.

I wasnt anymore impressed with Miranda, but i didint expect to. I know alot of you will get on me about this, but I dont care, it was a weak fight mostly because of Abraham's lack of action. His jaw broke and ran for the latter half of the fight, even Malignaggi didint do that. In Vegas he would have been booed easily. That was pathetic to me not even throwing a punch in the final championship rounds. To me, the way i saw it, Miranda won the fight, the point deductions ruined it, but Miranda did that to himself on a couple of occasions. I do feel not all those blows were low, as Abrahams trunks were high and alot of those landed on the belt.

Abraham has to improve in my opinion, Miranda is OK, but at the least, he landed alot of body shots and some of those punches definately got through his gaurd. This isnt Mayweather vs Castillo where Mayweather ducked/dodged/shoulder rolled the punches, Abraham just sat back and put his hands up with no counter punching whatsever.

Im in agreement with all those who feel Miranda could have won this fight without point deductions.

[2OSouzaSuarez12]

I watched the fight finally, i was excited because i have never seen him, finally i was going to get a chance and personally, it was boring for the most part and he was not impressive at all. He barely moved, he kept his hands up for alot of rounds and he showed no jab, he didint set up punches and the latter half of the fight he was running. The positioning of his belt coupled with his constant back pedeling as well as his crouching to block led to those low blows. Alot of those landed right on the belt of his high trunks when i watched them in slow motion.

Abraham was constantly moving backward, and the punches he did land were in small flurries, so what if Miranda was hit flush, He would go back to turtling. It was worse than Wright to me because Wright does that in the center of the ring and flings a jab to put you off pace, however Abraham just stays back and decides once in awhile to throw some big looping punches.

I wasnt anymore impressed with Miranda, but i didint expect to. I know alot of you will get on me about this, but I dont care, it was a weak fight mostly because of Abraham's lack of action. His jaw broke and ran for the latter half of the fight, even Malignaggi didint do that. In Vegas he would have been booed easily. That was pathetic to me not even throwing a punch in the final championship rounds. To me, the way i saw it, Miranda won the fight, the point deductions ruined it, but Miranda did that to himself on a couple of occasions. I do feel not all those blows were low, as Abrahams trunks were high and alot of those landed on the belt.

Abraham has to improve in my opinion, Miranda is OK, but at the least, he landed alot of body shots and some of those punches definately got through his gaurd. This isnt Mayweather vs Castillo where Mayweather ducked/dodged/shoulder rolled the punches, Abraham just sat back and put his hands up with no counter punching whatsever.

Im in agreement with all those who feel Miranda could have won this fight without point deductions.

I agree with you. Did you ever get that song translated?

[El Jesus]

I agree with you. Did you ever get that song translated?

i was going to tell you that i uploaded the song to my ******* music page, if your PM box is empty, i will PM you my music page and you can check it out, but hurry though, i been gettin laughs from some of my friends asking what the **** is on my damn page, ha.

[Black Pedro]

the fight is boring.

[adamk1304]

I watched the fight finally, i was excited because i have never seen him, finally i was going to get a chance and personally, it was boring for the most part and he was not impressive at all. He barely moved, he kept his hands up for alot of rounds and he showed no jab, he didint set up punches and the latter half of the fight he was running. The positioning of his belt coupled with his constant back pedeling as well as his crouching to block led to those low blows. Alot of those landed right on the belt of his high trunks when i watched them in slow motion.

Abraham was constantly moving backward, and the punches he did land were in small flurries, so what if Miranda was hit flush, He would go back to turtling. It was worse than Wright to me because Wright does that in the center of the ring and flings a jab to put you off pace, however Abraham just stays back and decides once in awhile to throw some big looping punches.

I wasnt anymore impressed with Miranda, but i didint expect to. I know alot of you will get on me about this, but I dont care, it was a weak fight mostly because of Abraham's lack of action. His jaw broke and ran for the latter half of the fight, even Malignaggi didint do that. In Vegas he would have been booed easily. That was pathetic to me not even throwing a punch in the final championship rounds. To me, the way i saw it, Miranda won the fight, the point deductions ruined it, but Miranda did that to himself on a couple of occasions. I do feel not all those blows were low, as Abrahams trunks were high and alot of those landed on the belt.

Abraham has to improve in my opinion, Miranda is OK, but at the least, he landed alot of body shots and some of those punches definately got through his gaurd. This isnt Mayweather vs Castillo where Mayweather ducked/dodged/shoulder rolled the punches, Abraham just sat back and put his hands up with no counter punching whatsever.

Im in agreement with all those who feel Miranda could have won this fight without point deductions.

Until you've been in his position, you can't reaaly critiscise him for not opening up more, his jaw was twice as bad as Malignaggi's, and he was choking on his own blood from round 5 onwards.

[restless_438]

many, many of you people on the board need to see more Abraham fights than just this one, before you go making assumptions about him.

Until you've been in his position, you can't reaaly critiscise him for not opening up more, his jaw was twice as bad as Malignaggi's, and he was choking on his own blood from round 5 onwards.

seriously, again Abraham like to "counter-punch" it has nothing to do with his willingness to engage.. people need to see the difference (BJ is one of them). This is EXACTLY what you do with an "early-aggressive" fighter like Miranda, why not let him wear himself out early in the round just to capitalize later on? And while there were a few short flurries by Abraham, i'd hardly say that's what he was doing the entire fight. The fact was that everytime Abraham hit Miranda, Miranda would stop throwing himself and cover, thus giving the illusion of a "flurry" The fact was that both guys had impressive power, and when that's the case, you're not going to always get 'Corrales-Castillo'-like action. Another fact is that both fighters had respect for each others power and neither were going to be ****** enough to go toe-to-toe just to impress fans.

[Novirasputin]

All of those were "scored" before the Headbutt and before the first point lost for a low blow.

[El Jesus]

Until you've been in his position, you can't reaaly critiscise him for not opening up more, his jaw was twice as bad as Malignaggi's, and he was choking on his own blood from round 5 onwards.

He was like this for alot of the fight, tell me around where he had Miranda backed up the entire round. Tell me a round where he pressed the action for the ENTIRE round, tell me a round where he looked to capitolize on the great punches he landed on Miranda.

I just dont look highly on backpedeling UNLESS, your effectively drawing the fight to your opponent and countering, which i just didint see. Mayweather does this alot, Barrera did a great job of it last week, Roy Jones USED TO do this all the time as well.

None of us will be in his position because we arent fighters, I am not calling him a *****, im not saying hes a *****, by no means would i even say that. I am dissapointed, if your going to continue, then CONTINUE, dont run around and hold on for dear life for 3 straight rounds. Do you see where im coming from?

[restless_438]

He was like this for alot of the fight, tell me around where he had Miranda backed up the entire round. Tell me a round where he pressed the action for the ENTIRE round, tell me a round where he looked to capitolize on the great punches he landed on Miranda.

I just dont look highly on backpedeling UNLESS, your effectively drawing the fight to your opponent and countering, which i just didint see. Mayweather does this alot, Barrera did a great job of it last week, Roy Jones USED TO do this all the time as well.

None of us will be in his position because we arent fighters, I am not calling him a *****, im not saying hes a *****, by no means would i even say that. I am dissapointed, if your going to continue, then CONTINUE, dont run around and hold on for dear life for 3 straight rounds. Do you see where im coming from?

You still don't get how his style works? You don't have to win a fight by walking an opponent down.

On how you couldn't see him effectively drawing in Miranda and countering, i'm speechless, cause that's almost exactly what Abraham did. It was almost more "waiting to attack 2nd", than countering IMO. But nonetheless, effective.

I just don't see how you missed it..

[adamk1304]

He was like this for alot of the fight, tell me around where he had Miranda backed up the entire round. Tell me a round where he pressed the action for the ENTIRE round, tell me a round where he looked to capitolize on the great punches he landed on Miranda.

I just dont look highly on backpedeling UNLESS, your effectively drawing the fight to your opponent and countering, which i just didint see. Mayweather does this alot, Barrera did a great job of it last week, Roy Jones USED TO do this all the time as well.

None of us will be in his position because we arent fighters, I am not calling him a *****, im not saying hes a *****, by no means would i even say that. I am dissapointed, if your going to continue, then CONTINUE, dont run around and hold on for dear life for 3 straight rounds. Do you see where im coming from?

He wasn't constantly backing Miranda up, but when he did unload, he hurt him several times. Miranda was the aggressor throughout however he was hitting the gloves and missing for the majority,whilst landing some good shots in between. The right hand that cracked arthur's jaw was awesome, but damn Edison is the dirtiest bastard i have ever seen.