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  • Brockton Lip
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    #101
    Originally posted by Abe Attell

    "Hit Harder"...how did you come up with that???

    Had a better chin, how did you come up with that???


    That's cool though, what's your opinion on a Foreman vs Marciano?
    Marciano KO 3 Foreman

    The damager done, thats how. Size is a ridiculously overrated issue. Tyson hits hard but not harder than Foreman, Shavers, or Marciano. He had more speed and accuracy with power and thats what made him dangerous, but he didn't hit harder.
    Chin; have you not seen the shots he was hit with? He was knocked down twice his whole career but was not hurt at all. Tyson has an underrated chin but I don't see it being better.

    Foreman vs. Marciano. My prediction(s), either Foreman TKO3 or Marciano KO7. It depends if Marciano can make it through the opening rounds. This has already been discussed many times, take a look.

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    • Abe Attell
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      #102
      Originally posted by Chum12788
      The damager done, thats how. Size is a ridiculously overrated issue. Tyson hits hard but not harder than Foreman, Shavers, or Marciano. He had more speed and accuracy with power and thats what made him dangerous, but he didn't hit harder.
      Chin; have you not seen the shots he was hit with? He was knocked down twice his whole career but was not hurt at all. Tyson has an underrated chin but I don't see it being better.

      Foreman vs. Marciano. My prediction(s), either Foreman TKO3 or Marciano KO7. It depends if Marciano can make it through the opening rounds. This has already been discussed many times, take a look.

      I'll give you that Tyson doesn't hit harder than Foreman and Shavers, but Marciano, have to disagree with you. Tyson has fought much bigger men than Marciano and knocked them dead...plus, even though Holmes wasn't in his prime, he was able to KTFO Larry, something nobody has ever been able to do, both prior, or after. Was also the only one to knock-down and Knockout Michael Spinks, though truly a (big) light-heavyweight, but what was Walcott, Moore, and Charles?

      You also can't use that lame excuse that his power was just in his speed since Ali was fast, but he didn't have the power that Tyson displayed...not sure if that is what you were trying to say

      Marciano was knocked down by Moore and Walcott, big hitters for non-heavyweights, but like I said, non-heavyweights.

      Foreman vs Marciano, have to disagree with you there again: Marciano doesn't move quickly going in, he is more like Frazier, a plotter...he has short arms so that is another disadvantage because he can't get in there quickly enough for those short arms...his punches aren't fast enough nor does he have the ability to throw great combinations to keep George off... he leaves his chin exposed when he throws his punches, though he is underrated when somebody is throwing at him since he does have the ability to roll with the punches, not like Toney, but he isn't taking a lot of shots flush like people say..
      Last edited by Abe Attell; 09-28-2006, 10:07 PM.

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      • potatoes
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        #103
        I agree Rocky Marciano does not belong in the Fattyweight division with all these useless, lazy bums who couldn't fight their way into a box of condoms. There isn't one fattyweight today that Marciano at 185 or Dempsey at 187 or Louis at 197 could not KO the first round.

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          #104
          Originally posted by potatoes
          I agree Rocky Marciano does not belong in the Fattyweight division with all these useless, lazy bums who couldn't fight their way into a box of condoms. There isn't one fattyweight today that Marciano at 185 or Dempsey at 187 or Louis at 197 could not KO the first round.
          marciano could not
          hang with todays
          heavyweights

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