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  • Truth
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    #21
    Originally posted by Abe Attell
    yes, but he took a low risk in my opinion: Tarver had to come down in weight and it was after a few grueling fights of his own...timing is everything
    LOL. No one was saying before the fight. Remember Tarver was saying he was going to KO Hopkins...Theres always an excuse. Tarver was saying the weight loss would no problem and he was 100% ready...

    You know what I'm starting to notice if you heavily analyze any boxer's career you can find a way to take away greatness.
    Last edited by Truth; 09-16-2006, 10:44 AM.

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    • GEOFFHAYES
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      #22
      I think Parks' heavier blows would of took their toll on Hopkins, in a close battle..

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      • Del Coqui
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        #23
        Originally posted by Abe Attell
        I understand your point, I just don't think it is fair...Jones didn't stay long enough at middle, true, but his balls dropped and he decided he wanted to move up...it's much more dangerous to fight guys at 175 then it was at 160
        Jones didn't move up because it was more dangerous to fight at 175, he moved up 'cause his people felt he couldn't make 160 and still be effective anymore. IMO, 160 is a tougher weight class than 175, these guys are a lot quicker and still can punch your head off.

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        • GEOFFHAYES
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          #24
          My respect for Hopkins is immense. But I do think he's over-rated, very over-rated these last five years..

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          • LiLHopkins
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            #25
            Originally posted by Queensdawg
            i agree with some of what your saying but u hate way too much on american fighters.. hopkins was a genius in the ring.. not the most exciting later in his career but he was great..

            I agree don't **** with Hopkins...He is one of the best middleweights of all-time.

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            • IwatchBoxing
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              #26
              Hopkins has a respectable career, hes not a super star, or he didnt go out his way to do anything, but hes still a great boxer, just not a crowd pleaser. He did what he had to do and nothing esle...the Tarver thing, is suspcoius, and the DLH fight, but of course its still a plus for him.

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              • Truth
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                #27
                Originally posted by IwatchBoxing
                Hopkins has a respectable career, hes not a super star, or he didnt go out his way to do anything, but hes still a great boxer, just not a crowd pleaser. He did what he had to do and nothing esle...the Tarver thing, is suspcoius, and the DLH fight, but of course its still a plus for him.
                LOL. Why is the Tarver fight su****ious? Tarver should have never taken the fight if he thought his weight loss was such a big deal. Tarver said he was fine before the fight...

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                • ben41193
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by TRUTH
                  But he did defend his title 20 times, I mean even if the opponents wern't great thats still pretty impressive. And then at 40 he faught a 26 year old and even though he lost he was competitive in both fights. And then at 41 he beat the light heavy weight champion. Thats enough to call him a great fighter I would think...

                  I agree he did fight bad oponents but he still had 20 defenses. I mean joe louis did that and alot of people have him as the number 1 heavyweight of all time. I say b-hop is great, end of discussion

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                  • jason100x
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                    #29
                    One of the best of all time? No, but he did what he had to do. He's my favorite fighter currently, if he is isn't retired, time will tell there. I'm not saying he's the best fighter, just my personal favorite. He's had a respectable career, his twenty defenses was impressive. He sometimes had mixed quality opponents but he fought who he needed to and always came in in very good condition, not blowing up between fights and that served him well as he passed forty. A good legacy there.

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                    • Truth
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by jason100x
                      One of the best of all time? No, but he did what he had to do. He's my favorite fighter currently, if he is isn't retired, time will tell there. I'm not saying he's the best fighter, just my personal favorite. He's had a respectable career, his twenty defenses was impressive. He sometimes had mixed quality opponents but he fought who he needed to and always came in in very good condition, not blowing up between fights and that served him well as he passed forty. A good legacy there.
                      So your saying hes not an all-time great? I thought the Tarver win killed any doubts. He has to be a top 10 middleweight, plus moving up to fight the light heavyweight champ at 41 and dominating is impressive.
                      Last edited by Truth; 09-18-2006, 04:38 PM.

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